Does anyone else feel disenfranchised?

[lucydogz]

For the 1st time in my voting life, there is nobody I want to vote for. I've got a gut feeling that there's a lot of other people feeling the same way. I've never voted Tory, and think that they have lead a lamentable campaign.
We have a good Labour MP, who's likely to get in again. My DH canvasses for them, and the general line is 'don't think about JC, vote for the MP'. But I feel that is unbelievably naive. Our MP was part of the revolt against JC, because, as a member of the shadow cabinet, they found him so difficult to work with. So Labour want us to vote for a leader that his own party can't work with. The only shadow cabinet he can scrape together are pretty poor.
I think he's had training to make himself more appealing in interviews (which TM could certainly do with) but, essentially he's still not someone I feel could run a country.
The Lib Dems don't appeal either.
Anyone else in the same boat?

Safe Tory seat here but I've voted lib dem as a tactical vote. UKIP were second here in 2010 which sickens me. So my vote won't count but will lessen Tory majority

Totally agree QuiteUnfit. I think you are a realist, not a cynic.

Also don't think a new government right in the middle of an ISIS campaign through Ramadam is a good idea either.

It would still be a new Government, even if the Tories won. The only way for Theresa May to have avoided that would have been not to call an election.

I would so like to see an end to Party Politics. If we could each just vote for the person we feel would do the best job for the actual constituents. I can see why it wouldn't work as things are, but surely we could find a way to make it work. Gordon Browne tried when he first got into No. 10 but was scotched immediately because no other party would cooperate. We missed a trick, we really did.

Here's a hypothetical question sort of linked to Jux.

What if all the constituencies voted in independents? How would a government be formed and who would be PM?

How so Peregrina? I thought the election was called pre Manchester?

No.
I did when New Labour was the way the Labour Party went. There was no opposition only various shades of blue.

Now we have an actual opposition.

I am hoping to feel a bit less disenfranchised after this election.

I live in a safe SNP seat, and see little prospect of this changing, so on that level, I will still be disenfranchised.

I felt utterly disenfranchised after the last Westminster elections, when despite only gaining approximately 50% of the votes in Scotland, the SNP won all but three of the fifty six Scottish seats. I genuinely felt that no-one was representing me, and the SNP were rejoicing about this.

Sadly this is the reality for many people in safe seats of every political hue. I d wonder whether the UK needs to consider some form of proportional representation. In the Holyrood elections, some seats are elected constituency MPs, just as we have in Westminster, but the rest are allocated based on the percentage of the vote each party gets, on the part list system.

So if, for example 300 MPs were elected via the party list system, and party A got 65% of the vote, they would get 195 MPs. They would have a list of their candidates, numbered from one to whatever, and in this case, the first 195 candidates from their list, would be elected.

This would require bigger constituencies, as it would mpneed a cut in the number of directly elect d constituency MPs.

The system seems to work fairly well in Holyrood.

But we had a referendum in 2010 on AV, and the people voted to keep FPTP. Lord only knows why??

I was on the losing side of that referendum too 🙄😂

Captain, I'm surprised the terror threat has made you want to vote tory, this happened under Mays watch as home sec and now PM. You cannot stop every attack but with 20k police cut and more cuts to come after the election, I am surprised anyone still feels she is a safe pair of hands. She was warned by the police in 2015 that cuts would lead to more terror attacks and told them 'this crying wolf has got to stop' 😮

Yes, I feel disenfranchised and not just because Chris Grayling is my MP and enjoys one of the safest seats in the country. So voting makes no difference either way. I did vote for him last time, more as a kind of ritual and also two words 'Ed Milliband'. I did think the Coalition did a good job on the economy after Ed Balls kept merrily predicting it would flatline and it didn't. But you couldn't vote for the Coalition. People deserted the Lib Dems and the result was the Brexit referendum that got called.

This has been the most depressing election campaign I can recall. It reeks of cynicism somehow and also feels oddly unreal. It is only happening because of Brexit, the only reason T May is PM is because of Brexit. It's like we've dropped through a time portal or something, an alternative less fun universe.

It's not even that I'm against Brexit as such, it's the way it dominates the news in such a nervy, persistent doomsday way.

The way May bangs on about 'strong and stable' because she's been told to sounds unhinged and actually insulting. It reminds me of that Line of Duty trailer that played incessantly on the BBC: 'YOU forced an INNOCENT man to be charged....'

George Osbourne bitching on about May's leadership in his role as editor of the Evening Standard means he's Ted Heath turned up to the max.

Kristal Tits and Alastair behind the scenes of May's campaign.

Corbyn's oratory reminds me of the feeble and unimpressive soothsayer in Life of Brian: 'And in particular be wary of those little things of no particular name that pop up in the night and irritate, funny things some of them have wings...'

Emily Thornberry at least has the virtue of making feel I'm not racist, as she's just as pompous as Diane Abbott.

But for the most part this is the Dark Ages of British politics. I mean, I have actually forgot about Tim Farron.