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Police fraud probe in South Thanet

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claig · 13/05/2015 17:45

"#ThanetRigged: Thanet South 'Fraud' Probe In Seat Where Nigel Farage Was Defeated In The General Election
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Police are looking into an allegation of electoral fraud in Thanet South, the seat which Ukip's Nigel Farage failed to win on Thursday night.

Mr Farage lost out in the General Election to the Conservatives' Craig Mackinlay who racked up 18,838 votes to Mr Farage's 16,026.

Claims of suspicious behaviour surfaced following a lengthy delay in declaring the seat's results at Margate's Winter Gardens."

www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015/05/13/thanet-south-fraud-nigel-farage-_n_7274172.html

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EmpressOfJurisfiction · 14/05/2015 08:24

namechange Grin
Jeeves for PM.

claig · 14/05/2015 08:28

"Jeeves for PM."

You want Boris for PM? The following is the sort of thng he would say to a t

"Look at that frightful ass Spode swanking about in footer bags! Did you ever in your puff see such a perfect perisher?"

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Isitmebut · 14/05/2015 08:58

Claig .... re your "Absolutely, but it is one the Establishment want."

If true, and I'm not convinced they care a cows fanny 5-years from the next general election, then UKIP shouldn't give it to them - don't blame 'the Establishment' for the needs of alpha males in politics, within their own party.

Speaking of snakes and Boris, I'm not a fan as leader and doubt he can keep his trouser snake where it should be until Cameron steps down.

claig · 14/05/2015 09:36

The Establishment care about UKIP.

"Labour's loss has been UKIP's gain"
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"Where Labour speaks at people, UKIP, with Farage to the fore, speaks to them. And in doing so, it shows how far removed the party-political establishment, and Labour in particular, is from, as Mann puts it, ‘the real world’.

In this, this slow-mo conquest of Labour’s one-time social constituency, this ability to speak to people and promise to take back what Westminster has taken, UKIP’s rise has an unexpected echo: the Scottish National Party. Yes, the SNP is pro-EU, and doesn’t like cigarettes or booze – both of which would have Farage turning in his political grave. But the parallels are there. Both parties, rhetorically at least, resist the ceaseless cosmopolitanism of a distant elite, and both play upon a sense of cultural imperilment. The Tories may have won the election, but the political shift is not Conservative – it’s something rather more populist than that."

www.spiked-online.com/newsite/article/labours-loss-has-been-ukips-gain/16962#.VVRcnqLbKic

'then UKIP shouldn't give it to them'

Farage doesn't want to, but here will be plots from withn UKIP and the Establishment will rub its hands and the media will encourage it to continue.

It's an existential battle. The politically correct crowd feel they have Farage on the ropes. The Establishment are holding their breath and hoping this may be the end of Farage and the insurgency.

They hoped Farage was gone, but he fooled them, now they hope a politically correct rebellion may topple or weaken him. But I think the millionaire backers and UKIP voters prefer Farage.

"However, the Conservative joy at having “cut off the serpent’s head” was somewhat tempered by suspicions that the Ukip beast may still prove to be a hydra."

www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/may/08/nigel-farage-quits-resigns-ukip-leader-may-return

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Seffina · 14/05/2015 10:04

"he fooled them"

"He didn't say for how long he would resign"

So he knew he would never actually resign as leader? He knew that they wouldn't accept it? Does that not make it a fake promise?

I don't care, politicians lie and make promises they don't intend on keeping all the time, but Nige made such a point that he wasn't like that. But it seems he is just like the rest of them.

Isitmebut · 14/05/2015 10:09

Claig ... again, sooooooo many words that basically agree with me, it is in UKIP's hands, not the Establishment if they decide to implode.

The media 24-hour news cycle have loads to focus on with all political parties at the moment, this self obsession that the UK revolves around UKIP, is exactly that.

Sort your own 'stuff' out, as other political parties are sorting theirs - even the Conservatives, who have a small matter of an EU Referendum to get to, with pre negotiations within the EU, the media can't wait to jump all over.

Owllady · 14/05/2015 10:11

The van had been parked all day outside the mechanical elephant on the sea front and the Margate population couldn't decider whether the driver was just inebriated or dead

claig · 14/05/2015 10:19

'it is in UKIP's hands, not the Establishment if they decide to implode'

Don't you understand that the ex-Tories and Cambridge graduates who are challenging Farage have omly been in the party for a few years? Farage has been in it for years. They are Johnny-come-latelys. Are they UKIP through and through or are some of them Establishment?

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claig · 14/05/2015 10:29

'So he knew he would never actually resign as leader?'

I don't know. My guess is that the millionaires who have put money into UKIP said get back out there and take it to the Establishment, we didn't put money into this for nothing. They know very well why UKIP is popular and it is because of straight-talking Farage. The politically correct crowd that is challenging him wouldn't win half the votes that Farage can pull in. With them at the helm, UKIP would be finished and that is exacly what the Establishment hope for.

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Isitmebut · 14/05/2015 10:46

Claig .... re your "Are they UKIP through and through or are some of them Establishment?"

I'd say ex Tories and Oxbridge graduates getting through are the least of UKIP's internal problems;
”Ukip official in charge of vetting candidates admits he spends half his time 'weeding out the lunatics'
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2873508/Ukip-official-charge-vetting-candidates-admits-spends-half-time-weeding-lunatics.html

As for Farage being so 'anti establishment', anyone who is likely to try an eighth time to become a Westminster MP and looking to feather his own bed, may not quite be the revolutionary you still think he is - and wasn't that one of Patrick O'Flynne's points?
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/ukip/11231687/Nigel-Farage-is-desperate-for-Ukip-to-join-the-cosy-Westminster-clique.html

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/nigel-farage-calls-for-mp-pay-rise-to-100000--just-weeks-before-announcing-where-he-will-stand-in-2015-9593756.html

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