Meet the Other Phone. A phone that grows with your child.

Meet the Other Phone.
A phone that grows with your child.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

Politics

Rotherham council takes away foster children because parents were UKIP members

40 replies

longfingernails · 24/11/2012 10:21

This is outrageous.

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/9700001/Council-defends-taking-foster-children-away-from-UKIP-members.html

OP posts:
Cozy9 · 25/11/2012 09:22

What? Do you think all foster carers vote Labour?

FunBagFreddie · 27/11/2012 00:06

I get pissed off at the assumption that libertarians are racist. They aren't, they just want their national sovereignty back.

Squitten · 27/11/2012 12:56

I would have a lot more sympathy for UKIP's outrage if they didn't send candidates to stand in my local by-election who say things like this:

www.thisiscroydontoday.co.uk/Exclusive-UKIP-candidate-Croydon-North-says-gay/story-17426910-detail/story.html

tiggytape · 27/11/2012 12:59

This reply has been deleted

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

Squitten · 27/11/2012 13:09

I'd suggest that if they have to distance themselves from their own Parliamentary candidate, they really haven't got a bloody clue what they are doing.

tiggytape · 27/11/2012 13:27

This reply has been deleted

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

Squitten · 27/11/2012 13:44

I really do see what you're saying, in theory.

My problem is this: as a voter who they are trying to persuade to vote for them, I have to look at what they present now that they are given the opportunity to explain it to me in their own terms. If UKIP knowingly chooses a candidate who a) holds some rather objectionable views that are utterly contrary to the party line and b) isn't particularly loyal to UKIP at all, what am I to learn from that? It's not exactly extolling their finest virtues is it, if that's the best they can offer. I can't vote for them based on their ideals. I have to vote based on the person who will be representing me and voting on these kinds of key issues in Parliament - and this guy will not be apparently towing the party line so what agenda is he following exactly? Who knows!

And both his reputation and UKIPs is being utterly trashed now. Their European agenda is utterly vanished beneath a homophobia row. And they picked him!

It makes their complaining about adoption issues sound hollow when their own man is denouncing the rights of others to adopt under a nice big picture of their logo.

tiggytape · 27/11/2012 14:50

This reply has been deleted

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

tiggytape · 27/11/2012 14:55

This reply has been deleted

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

Cozy9 · 28/11/2012 19:55

Rotherham isn't exactly left-wing, just benefit-dependent.

edam · 28/11/2012 21:54

Cozy, that's a nasty swipe. Rotherham was one of the towns that lost its heavy industries - coal and steel - in the 1980s, when the then government decided to wipe out heavy industry and focus on the City of London instead. And we know how well the second half of that sentence went...

ironman · 02/12/2012 12:25

Out of all of this the people who really suffer are the 3 children who were moved from the foster parents care. It is very difficult to find a family who will foster all 3 siblings together. In any case Labour voters,Tory voters, and Liberal voters, can all be against mass immigration or more states joining the EU and more immigration, so why don't they ban all of these prospective foster parents from caring for children? They can't because of the Human Rights Act, and the article which gives the right of political expression.
IMO social workers have far too much power, and it needs to be stopped. If Im right the social work panels are normally not made up of lay people (perhaps one or two) and they make the decisions in these cases of where children should be placed. Of course personal and political judgements will all come into play.
In many familes politics are spoken about,(including mine) but it has not mentally damaged my mixed race husband, my children or my mother-in-law who is from the far East. No I tell a lie, I became so damaged I joined UKIP! Grin

YNK · 02/12/2012 12:37

Exemplary carers? Encouraging children to call them mum and dad after a few months? Surely this is wrong, particularly as they have parents who want them back.
I believe there is an ongoing investigation regarding alleged abuse by the birthparents, so encouraging the children to reject them may jeopardise the lines of enquiry.

exexpat · 02/12/2012 12:51

Haven't you read the latest updates on the UKIP/Rotherham/fostering story? Not surprisingly, it turns out that it was a rather more complicated situation than the "UKIP membership = no fostering" headlines made out.

Issues include the possibility that the birth parents might have been able to find their children at that particular foster home, and that there had been a previous court case about children from that family being fostered by people who didn't speak their mother tongue. It was also only ever intended as a short-term placement.

edam · 02/12/2012 18:19

Flannel flannel flannel. Joyce Thacker head of children's services, went on TV to state clearly the issue was UKIP support by the foster carers. The birth parents may well want the children back - that doesn't affect the suitability of these foster carers v. any others. SS have clearly been unable to find other foster parents that speak the mother tongue - given we know the children have been split up. Clearly that has a huge effect on their ability to speak their mother tongue - given one of the kids is no longer with his siblings.

New posts on this thread. Refresh page