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Louise Mensch resigns...

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propercharlie · 06/08/2012 09:38

too hard to balance famaily life :(

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Clytaemnestra · 06/08/2012 20:31

Claudia Winkleman has quit her job on Strictly in order to spend more time with her family. Do we think the same about her? Excuse Daily Mail link for those who are sensitive to those things.

www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2184514/Claudia-Winkleman-quits-Strictly-It-Takes-Two-spend-time-family.html

clemetteattlee · 06/08/2012 20:33

Clyt, she was ELECTED to do an important job of public service. She knew what the commitment was.

I don't really care how women manage their work-life balance as long as they are HONEST. Most SAHM I know acknowledge that they don't WANT to go to work. A small number stay at home because they can't make childcare work finacially or practically. Mensch is doing this because she wants a new job in a new country. If she came out and said she was doing it for her man then I would appreciate her honesty but to say it is because she is a working mother strikes me as disingenuous.

clemetteattlee · 06/08/2012 20:34

Winkleman did not PROMISE to serve her constituents as Mensch did when she swore her oath.

Sylvie1980 · 06/08/2012 20:39

Threads like this always make me wonder if most MNers have massive chips on their shoulder. It's ludicrous to think that the decision she is making is symptomatic of what other women have to deal with. It does not mark a step backwards for working women, no a lowering of the glass ceiling.

Of course she can't balance the needs of her family. Her family is highly abnormal - with her husband living in New York. It has nothing to do with her being a working woman, an MP, or anything else. The Tory party (and I'm no fan) seem to have done lots to try and help her balance things, but there's absolutely no way that they could or should be doing more so as she can manage life more easily when he husband is in the States. That would be ludicrous.

And as for the 'well he should give up his job' line, don't be so presumptuous. She's hardly a put upon wifey. I would bet my bottom dollar that it was roundly debated in the household and I'm reasonably confident that his superior earnings will have been a deciding factor. That's a sensible decision in any family (where the decision is about MOVING continents, not about giving up work, remember). And unless you're thinking that MPs should be earning the millions he probably makes then it's hardly surprising that the decision fell the way it did.

FWIW I have spent the last decade working in the oil industry - which is about as male dominated as it comes. I have never encountered an ounce of sexism and I know lots of incredibly successful women (mothers and not) who have worked their way through. However, like every other working mother I know I do sometimes have to make hard decisions and sacrifice time I'd like to spend with my family. But that's just life. And my husband makes similar decisions every day - in fact he moved jobs after our first child was born (which involved a significant pay cut) so that he could be home more than he would otherwise have been. Both women AND men make these sorts of decisions all the blimming time.

SardineQueen · 06/08/2012 20:43

Enjoyed your post there sylvie Smile

clemetteattlee · 06/08/2012 20:43

No chip here. I just loathe Mensch and her "feminism-light".

And life decisions are not always based on money, nor should they be.

Sylvie1980 · 06/08/2012 20:46

I entirely agree clem, however I imagine that her decision was.

clemetteattlee · 06/08/2012 20:47

But she is already a millionaire from her "novels". She wasn't doing her job for the money.

edam · 06/08/2012 20:52

A fine example of how you can build a high profile career on tweeting alone. Didn't she bitch about not having a government job yet recently?

clemetteattlee · 06/08/2012 20:54

And... And... I don't think you should be ABLE to give up being an MP because it suits you better financially to live in another country.

scummymummy · 06/08/2012 20:56

She's vile and hideous. Great to see her go to the US and leave parliament. I wish we could send the rest of the Tories and lib dems with her.

Coniger · 06/08/2012 20:57

Is it not possible to be supportive of her and stop character assassinating her? Take a deep breath and imagine being on the receiving end of this discussion especially when she has made such a massive decision. Hurtful comments about her writing or her ability as an MP is below the belt. Whatever you think this would have been a courageous decision so focus on that rather than be just mean

FalseStartered · 06/08/2012 20:59

i'm not just being mean, she's been a shit MP for me

clemetteattlee · 06/08/2012 21:00

I loathe her politics. Her writing (and the basis of her plots ) is appalling. I condemn women who put their husbands before their children (especially when it involves moving them away from their own father). What am I supposed to be supportive of?

Viviennemary · 06/08/2012 21:04

Shame we can give our opinion without virtually being labelled mean bitches. And since when have MP's only punched above the belt. Figuratively speaking of course!

SardineQueen · 06/08/2012 21:08

Out of interest what is her politics?

I mean obviously she is a tory, but despite seeing her speaking many times I have never heard her talk about anything / in a way that seemed to relate to politics in any particular way.

She never seemed that dangerous to me...

If it was nadine dorries who was going I would be strewing flowers from my hat - she is a person where "any female is better than none" does fall down somewhat flat on its face...

SardineQueen · 06/08/2012 21:10

I mean, i don't remember seeing her throwing her weight behind any controversial policies or anything.

I just couldn't get that worked up about her - and for a tory that is quite a feat Grin I have never really understood why she attracted such strong (negative) opinions. if you're going to hate a tory there are far far more obvious targets!!!

Coniger · 06/08/2012 21:11

what I hate about this thread is it is character assassination of a public figure who we don't know - we might think we do through all the different types of media at our disposal but we don't. We do not walk in her shoes, we have not had the same life experiences but i know that if i read this backlash about me it would hurt whether I was in the public eye or not

SwedishEdith · 06/08/2012 21:13

Is coniger LM? Why can't people say her writing's shit?

FalseStartered · 06/08/2012 21:14

she had no politics of her own

i emailed her on occasion (eg; abortion clinics and counselling, the changes to legal aid, support for a local service funding) each time she replied with the line that she would not be voting against the government.

she took no local cause to the house, i never heard her speak in favour of her constituents.

SardineQueen · 06/08/2012 21:14

POssibly, SE.

SardineQueen · 06/08/2012 21:15

falsestarted that is poor but not surprising.

I get the same from mine Sad

SardineQueen · 06/08/2012 21:15

Not that I've emailed her more than twice though!

clemetteattlee · 06/08/2012 21:16

"I have strong feelings of hero worship towards him. I was longing to brand myself with his name for a very long time. He's a living legend, and to be his wife is the greatest honour." LM on her husband.

SardineQueen · 06/08/2012 21:18

Good LORD.

I mean, crikey.

DH is OK, and all that, but I've not branded myself. I take it she doesn't mean literally Confused

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