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did this government really not see the defeats coming?

104 replies

ThatVikRinA22 · 04/05/2012 18:03

if so im gobsmacked. truly.

lib dems have the lowest number of seats since the party was formed.
ha bloody ha.
there were no elections here but had there been i would have relished voting these bastards out

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BackforGood · 05/05/2012 16:52

This was a local council election though.
I wasn't voting on Government policies, I was electing councillors to sit on my local Council.
I get really cross when the media constantly try to say the local council elections are a vote for/against David Cameron or Ed Miliband. They aren't standing in the local elections. Surely the media's job should be to report the facts - or explain the facts ? - not to try to suggest you should be voting on Government policy when that's not what the election is about ?

claig · 05/05/2012 16:52

But Brown presided over 'light touch regulation' of the bankers, was close to the Murdoch press, said he had put an end to boom and bust and said we had only '50 days left to save the planet'. He was not so different to other leaders.

insancerre · 05/05/2012 16:57

I do know that, I just posted about my perceptions not actual policies.

niceguy2 · 05/05/2012 17:08

As a person I don't think GB had the qualities to be PM. A PM needs to be able to be a good orator, a good negotiator and able to get the best out of people.

GB showed he wasn't leadership material when as chancellor he used to shout from the rafters about good news or whatever money he was wasting investing. But when there was bad news, he was always suspiciously absent.

He could get away with it when he wasn't PM but when he became PM, it was quickly clear he didn't have the temperament at all.

ThePathanKhansWitch · 05/05/2012 18:10

GB should have stayed "the backroom" guy. Ego, political egging had a lot to do with him wanting to be PM (a role in every other way,than intellect, he wasn't cut out for).
As for presiding over the banks during their most lax, IMO any Government at the time would have sat back and done the same, in the end, it's ALWAYS about the money.
Labour saw the money coming in from the city, and followed it. Wasted opportunity. They could have/should have achieved a lot more. Ach, all history now, where are we going??
Ideas on a postcard to D.Cameron/E.Miliband.

ThatVikRinA22 · 05/05/2012 20:44

see if Cameron was more like
this
i would vote for him for ever....Grin

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BIWItheBold · 05/05/2012 20:54

Hilly - there was no actual sex involved. Just a lot of very suggestive flirting leading up to what would be inevitable ...

I met him at the Mumsnet 10th birthday party and he is a lot better looking in real life than on the telly

AitchTwoOhOneTwo · 05/05/2012 21:13

oh that's hilarious.

AitchTwoOhOneTwo · 05/05/2012 21:14

sorry, that last regarding my boyfriend barack.

ThePathanKhansWitch · 05/05/2012 22:09

vicar you're so not wrong Grin.

Chuka Umuna is not our Obama, he's dead behind the shark eyes.

ThatVikRinA22 · 05/05/2012 22:29

good innit Grin i particularly love the bit he is asking about his "just for men" hair colour and if anyone would notice if he went one darker.....Grin i find a politician with a sense of humour particularly endearing!

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AitchTwoOhOneTwo · 05/05/2012 22:31

see the thing is, it's all written for him, so that's that. but his delivery is sensational, absolutely brilliant. when he winked about being born in hawaii, i howled.

ThatVikRinA22 · 05/05/2012 22:58

yeah i realise that he didnt write it, but he is a natural.

i love the doggy campaign ad....

the whole thing was just brilliant i thought. Michelle clearly loves her dude too....

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ThatVikRinA22 · 05/05/2012 22:59

and he must have a SOH to deliver such a speech....

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AitchTwoOhOneTwo · 05/05/2012 23:02

i'm not disagreeing with you, dumbass. Grin i just mean that we can broadly discount the actual jokes, but the timing, the delivery etc etc, that can't be done for you, that is, as you say, natural... and anyway he's my boyfriend now so back off, biyatch. Wink

ThatVikRinA22 · 05/05/2012 23:12

i will fight you for him....and i can use home office approved use of force techniques you know! Grin

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Orwellian · 06/05/2012 09:57

I think it is depressing that people have such short memories that they forget what 13 years of Labour did to this country and why the coalition have felt it necessary to make all these cuts (Labour spent all the money in the good times instead of putting it away for a rainy day). I am not a big fan of the current coalition as I think Cameron has no clear vision of what he wants the Conservatives to be (probably brought about by having the Lib Dems constrict their every move) and the current Conservatives don't seem to be doing much different than Labour were doing. We need real change and we need the politicians to actually listen to what the electorate want, not use taxpayers money to fund vanity projects and increase taxes to pay for fraudulent climate change and diversity projects.

I also can't understand how anyone can contemplate voting for a Labour leader such as Moribund, he doesn't look like he has a brain in his head, let alone an original thought and I can't imagine him governing the country with any kind of charisma or strength. For all his sins (and I really do hate him), at least Tony Blair had some charisma and knew how to project a persona of strength which is needed on the international stage. Moribund simply comes across as a wet flannel.

claig · 06/05/2012 10:14

It seems that the opposition to some of their policies and the climate change claptrap is growing and is being increasingly voiced in papers such as the Daily Mail and even by some Tory MPs, in the same way as the crowd echoed the little boy who said that the emperor has no clothes.

But will the leadership change and will they have the courage to face down the liberal intellectual elite and the Guardian and the BBC who are often the drum beaters for the climate catastrophe cavalcade?

Nadine Dorries has again stepped up her criticisms in today's Daily Mail and the fact that the Mail is publishing it seems to point to the fact that she must have supporters and is not a lone voice.

www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2140153/Nadine-Dorries-warns-David-Cameron-Be-warned-Party-bosses-need-46-signatures-ditch-leader-Theyll-Christmas.html

Osborne was on the Andrew Marr Show this morning and was very good. He said that the government has listened to the people and is concentrating on issues that are most important to them and that they will do more to enable the economy to grow.

claig · 06/05/2012 10:30

sorry, meant to say

climate catastrophe cavalcade of clowns, chancers and champagne charlatans

Orwellian · 06/05/2012 10:30

The Tories need to get rid of Cameron asap imo.

AitchTwoOhOneTwo · 06/05/2012 10:30

at Moribund. really can't see that one catching on.

claig · 06/05/2012 10:31

more commonly known as socialists

AitchTwoOhOneTwo · 06/05/2012 10:32

ROAR at claig coming back to add more alliterative paranoia. Grin

claig · 06/05/2012 10:35
Grin I could continue to convey their climate catastrophe chicanery but I need a coffee
AitchTwoOhOneTwo · 06/05/2012 10:36

a caffeinated one? Grin