Voted Tory or Libdem? Dont moan about the cuts...

[amanda277]

It makes me laugh when people seem shocked at the Condems and their cuts. What did people expect when they voted Tory? The mega rich don?t care about the working class and I can only see it getting worse. My Local Sure Start Centre has just shut and there rest are sure to follow, I think it will soon be similar to the ?Thatcher? years again and im sure David Cameron and his cronies dont give a damn about the NHS....

Did the critics (for the sake of argument) take these "clever" PhDs at their word and apply their logic to Siberia, something which had slipped the learned ones by?

Off you go to siberia then calig.

Scientific method ie attempt to disprove hypothesis, replicatible experiments can surely be used in politics, economics and sociology. GB had Tory govt 79-97, high unemployment - result misery. GB has Tory govt now,high unemployment - result misery. What made you think you'd get a different result? Are you mad?

Very "scientific" [buhmm]

No moaning here and I work in the NHS.

Think tax credits were a stupid idea which means there are many families that rely on what is effectively a benefit that they should not be getting as are in work and am not bemoaning the loss of child beneift - was bound to come.

My understanding is that tax credits replaced the married person's tax allowance in order to target those with children?

Seems to me that when it's indirect taxation, there isn't such an uproar. For instance, there aren't riots on the streets because of the huge increase in National Insurance....

Which is exactly why all indirect taxes should be scrapped, as well as all indirect benefits.

A Conservative Chancellor should do everything possible to simplify the tax system as much as possible, and make us as aware as possible of the taxes we pay. George Osborne is moving in that direction - not nearly fast enough, of course - but at least he understands.

If taxes are highly visible, then Labour simply can't increase them. If National Insurance was scrapped, Labour wouldn't have the political capital to reintroduce it unless they got a Blair-1997-style majority.

George Osborne, Michael Gove, Theresa May, and Iain Duncan-Smith are the main reasons I have faith in this government.

We see it again with the Office for Budget Responsibility. It's a good idea in and of itself, but more importantly, it shows George Osborne's fine political instincts at their finest.

Tories have little to fear from independent macroeconomic assessments - of course, individual budgets could be embarassing, but in general, the macro picture will always favour those who like fiscal surpluses.

By contrast, Labour are opposed to the very concept of budget responsibility in their hearts, but just can't say so, because they know voters will punish them for it. Thus, the OBR is here to stay - though I do worry that a future Labour government might change its remit to cover some far-left cause.

I agree with aliceliddell.

The economic theory that tories are using has been tried, tested and failed both in the UK and across the world. Its a no brainer but they are too selfish to consider other systems.

Whereas keynesian economic policies have been tried, tested and proven to work, in the UK, abroad and across history. Principles like those described in 'the spirit level' also work wonders for a country. When will they take a responsible approach to the budget and use systems that actually work??

HH - you do understand that Keynsianism is a long term policy and you need to follow it over the entire economic cycle - right?

Unfortunately, the last government were not Keynsians and they closed down the option of a fiscal led recovery by not running a surplus during the peak of the economic cycle. Maybe they thought they had good reasons - but they took a risk and we are left with the consequences.

Just in case - No, I'm not a Labour supporter, I am a socialist. Therefore I have no faith in a party that failed to regulate banks but had no qualms regulating unions, whose members support Labour via the political levy and get sod all in return from the spineless invertebrates currently running the LP apart from slower redundancy notices and backdoor privatisation of our public sector.

Tories always point the finger at Labour instead of addressing their own faults. Who is in government and can do something about the problems? Thats who you should be complaining to.

HH - was that an answer to my Keynsian question?

I was no fan of Thatcher BUT there was one thing she did intend to do but was voted out before she could and that was curtail the power of the medical profession. That lot were due for an overhaul .Anyone who has had a complaint will know how they stick together.V powerful people esp the GPs(we are medics by the way)

i voted Tory too, any party that got in would of had to of implied these cuts, and I agree, i dont think enough have been made yet. Did people out there realy think the bury your head in the sand times were realy going to go on forever? I am sure the Torys do give a stuff about the NHS and education, but Labour totally stipped this country bare! The only people i feel frustrated for are those who actually trusted the Lib Dems!

I voted Lib Dem. I thought Labour was off course.

I thought there needed to be cuts. I just don't think they need to be as deep as fast as they are currently being enacted.

If we have Labour, it will be easy now but tougher for the next generation.

If we have Conservative, it will be tough now, but easier for the next generation.