Internships

[newwave]

Cleggers wants competition for unpaid internship how wonderful, all it will mean is one overprivileged rich bastards offspring competing with other rich bastards offspring.

Nick FFS wake up! the poor need to work that is if their are any jobs for them when you and the Tory filth have finished you quisling scum

But the point is, insert1X50p, that people are not 'forced' into joining a union when they are teachers. Also, it's been noted that Gove has made cock up after cock up with funding for education.

and, back to the original point about internships...when i left school i had never heard of them. it was a'levels or job.

after a'levels it was work or university.
i took a year out, but there was no way my parents would have supported me financially for a year to do an internship, even if i had known they existed. i worked in a pub and gave my mum money for food. i was lucky she had the spare bedroom. there will be in the future, and now, lots of families who cannot support their older children through an internship or even have a room for them sleep in [especially with new rules on housing benefit].

the whole thing is a joke. what they say[yet again] is at complete odds with what they do. there they go again, taking us all for suckers. who buys this nonsense.

Internships are not needed for most jobs. Although some professions recruit from paid vacation schemes, there still exists the milkround where graduates are recruited from students. Of course if you've managed to get some work experience as a student that will help and in today's market even the best graduates are finding it hard to get any job but plenty of jobs don't have requirements for months of unpaid work before you are hired.

Lego- Agree, it's still a choice. It's not mandatory.

I just think this whole internship thing is a bit of a non-issue tbh. I have no idea why they decided to make such a big deal out of it.

As Xenia says, "internships" are definitely not the only way into a job.

Unless things has changed drastically in the last 3 yrs, most unpaid long term internships (i.e. more than just shadowing for a few weeks) exist in competitive but not especially well paid fields- politics, advertising, the media, journalism, publishing and not in the very well paid sectors that Clegg is targeting. The fact that you have to do these jobs unpaid to get the experience should probably tell the wannabes something about those sectors- ie that it's an employer's market. That's not necessarily a bad lesson.

Yes, they really have got their wires crossed over this. The formal paid holiday schemes of the City and milk round recruitment with on line assessment and then interviews and days of exercises are designed to weed out those who aren't up to it. They are fairly fair ways of testing and the Govenrment should be patting that sector on the back for doing it so well rather than coming out with statements that are simply untrue.

In sectors where the very bright are in high demand and wages are high it's a different market than that for graduares who want to work in an auction house or do journalism or fashion where the work if you ever end up paid isn't usually that well paid anyway.

However the issue of connections is an interesting one and the problem for children with low expectations not even knowing certain jobs apply is a problem. They need to know early because if they've no good exam results and no social skills you cannot sort that out at 18.