Have you noticed the opoor seem to be getting a better deal in Scotland and Wales?

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Presription changes. And the government dont nick their houses when they are old.

This happens to about 40,000 householders a year in England. "Gabby"

Sorry I'm a bit late to the debate, but surely the best solution is for the Westminster government to adopt the good policies in Scotland (free care for the elderly, no tuition fees etc), not for Scotland to lose their democratic rights in the same way as the rest of the UK are.

Also, that would undermine the calls from Scotland for independence.

mellow - good idea. england just needs the same funding as scotland and wales to enable us to do this.

Well then we all need to vote for the political party that will deliver it! Clearly if Scotland can afford it, England can - you have far more millionaires per metre than we do. It's just a matter of priorities.

mellow - scotland can only afford it because it gets more per head of funding from central gov - 1496 more per person than in England.

I don't know what the figures are, but assuming you are correct, I don't defend teh disparity in amounts. All I think is that if we have one good system (Scotland) and one bad one (England) it makes more sense to change the bad one.

I agree that English students also deserve to go to uni without having to pay tuition fees, and English old people should also have free personal care.

In Scotland, we voted in a government (the previous ones and the present) who gave us these things. The English need a similar government.

yes, Mellow, that seems reasonable to me.

"Have you noticed the opoor seem to be getting a better deal in Scotland and Wales?"

Surely the o'poor are in Ireland...

Yes and I didn't pick her up on it, but as far as I know we have greater poverty and deprivation in Scotland than in England - but who's scoring points!

It is called being Proactive I think.

also aren't England well known for having laughable systems, school places for example.

I think the way school places are allocated here (Scotland) is the same as in England. If you are in the catchment area you get in. But if you want a school outwith the catchment area, you have to have points for nine things like disabilities or siblings already at the school of choice. Not a good system, imo, but a thorny issue, and probably not best explored here (don't want to hijack the OP).

Btw, it's so sad reading about people's experiences on here. Why don't we rejoice in our differences and enjoy them, rather than attack anyone who speaks with a different accent.

Dont worry about it, now wales has the 'yes' vote things will slowly go downhill. I think people forget that all the things like free prescriptions are done because we can take mobey from th english coffers, and that wont happen now so we're up the creek without a paddle, no way can wales continue the way it is at the moment with uni fees and prescription charges

'Btw, it's so sad reading about people's experiences on here. Why don't we rejoice in our differences and enjoy them, rather than attack anyone who speaks with a different accent.'

I meant to write this on another thread, not here. I really am losing my marbles ...

What we actually do is broadly speaking split into classes who are comfortable with each other....It is about money and other things too.

Esther Rantzen, who I dont quote often, used to interview people outside Harrods and in The Fulham Market, on a regular basis.

She said "I dont like say it but even after hearing them talk, those 2 sets of people are never going to mix in any real sense."

She was broadly right. They may mix as boss and employee. But for all sorts of reasons they would not be comfortable with each other.

Posh kids get a rough ride from from non posh kids in the playground (and vice versa I suppose.) Sad, but the truth is never really sad.)

Things are changing slowly

Concordia - SNP MPs have never voted on purely English matters for the very reason that it wouldn't be fair. Labour on the other hand would bever have got anything through without the votes of Scottish Labour Mps. There are some issues which although being about spending on England, have a knock-on effect (to do with the Barnett formula and consequensials, which I don't fully understand). I think along the lines of, if there is a cut in the spending in England, there will a percentage cut in the equivalent budget to Scotland. SNP MPs would vote on those issues, asit would therefore impact on their constituents.
However, simple answer - independence for all!