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Sham Cam

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newwave · 22/11/2010 00:23

Touching to see Mr and Mrs Cam crying at the school their late Son Ivan went to and all the nice words about the care he received. Pity is that he dosent give a toss for other children in the same or similiar positions, if he did he would not be cutting so much child provision.

Still not suprised, being a Tory or voting Tory says you are a selfish person.

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edam · 24/11/2010 16:34

mumble - that's very harsh. Don't think it's fair or honourable to blame the victim.

People in Ethiopa may not have access to contraception. And if you know half your children will die, it makes sense to try to have a big family so you stand a chance of one or two surviving. Especially in a country with no social security where it's the family that is the building block of society. I don't know much about Ethiopian society, as it happens, which is why I'm not the one condemning people in Ethiopia for being famine victims, but in some societies a person without children is without value and without support.

mumblechum · 24/11/2010 17:07

Yes, I see the logic of your argument, Edam, but it's equally logical to say that if you have, I dunno, £100 per year coming in, and two or three children, you can feed them and keep them innoculated against disease, so they're more likely to survive than if you have ten children, without those basic needs met, of whom five will die or even if they don't die, live a pretty miserable existence.

mumblechum · 24/11/2010 17:08

And that's why I'm saying that the highest priority for aid should be contraception and family planning education, in tandem with general health advice, such as basic hygiene.

2shoes · 24/11/2010 17:08

males me mad that they can afford to send money abroad when people need help here.
the amount of cuts that are going to affect disabled people is sick.
if we can't afford to look after our own, we sure as hell shouldn't be sending money abroad.

DRivenGnomeforChristmas · 24/11/2010 17:09

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numotre · 24/11/2010 17:24

I'm in the minority of supporting the increase in the foreign aid budget, aid is needed in order to eradicate absolute poverty in the world and this as well as being a very charitable gesture also serves our foreign policy objectives such as combatting terrorism and establishing trade links with developing countries which can be used in the future.

DRivenGnomeforChristmas · 24/11/2010 17:27

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numotre · 24/11/2010 17:32

I know our foreign aid budget alone won't eradicate world poverty but it is part of a wider effort from all nations of the G20 and EU to try and reduce absolute poverty. I know many countries have gone back on the 0.7% of GDP proposal but I think we should be proud to have kept the committment we've made.

2shoes · 24/11/2010 19:36

I would be prouder to see help given to vunerable people here, rather than see what they have taken away.
I can't afford to feel proud that we are giving money away to other countries.

huddspur · 24/11/2010 20:47

How are we going to eradicate world poverty if all developed nations cut their foreign aid to developing countries.

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