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cuts - Wednesday's Spending Review

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mrsbaldwin · 19/10/2010 23:02

Brace yourself ladies - these cuts are big, there will be tens of thousands of public sector redundancies and it's said (by the Fawcett Society amongst others) that they will disproportionately affect women.

Some workers will get some sort of payoff, and some will be pleased to go. Some will find new jobs.

But I reckon the overall effect (licks finger and holds it in the wind) will be to drive down women's wages, meaning that once you are made redundant from your public sector post you may find more work but it will be at a lower rate and the extra competition for jobs across the board will drive wages down across the board. This may be true for men as well but I think it will affect women - mums - more.

If you are watching the press coverage on Weds, what do you think the effects of the cuts and the job losses for women (and mums) will be?

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ImGideonsMumAndIHateHimToo · 21/10/2010 08:54

What is this high life standard of which you speak, bail? Remembering that i am auaker; posh clothes, cars, big tvs mean zero to me.

HalloweeseG · 21/10/2010 08:56

Riven your Dh doesn't work for his employer for over 100 hours a week.

He has had time to write a book and tend an allotment.

sarah293 · 21/10/2010 08:57

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baildonwen · 21/10/2010 08:57

Gideons the things you list are part of it but people on higher incomes tend to eat healthier, don't drink as much and are less likely to be on drugs.

sarah293 · 21/10/2010 08:58

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HalloweeseG · 21/10/2010 09:02

Well if a carer is on minimum wage wouldn't it make more sense for him to work more hours and pay a carer out of his salary?

If he took a full time post surely you could pay a carer. Research may not be well paid but it pays more than a carer.

Just something I've always wondered about you?

baildonwen · 21/10/2010 09:03

Illegal drug use is much higher in the lower income groups then the higher ones riv.

shinybootsofleather · 21/10/2010 09:05

There are a small minority of people across all classes/wealth brackets who are on drugs baildonwen. I fail to see your point, unless it is to stereotype the poor as deep-fried Mars Bar eating, pot smoking eejits.

sarah293 · 21/10/2010 09:06

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shinybootsofleather · 21/10/2010 09:06

Also, many have taken drugs in the past and do not do so now. Shock! - some people have taken drugs in the past and are absolutely fine. Some do so now and are absolutely fine as well.

sarah293 · 21/10/2010 09:08

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HalloweeseG · 21/10/2010 09:11

But you said:

"One of dd's rspite carers puts in 60 hour weeks caring for various children. For minimum wage"

shinybootsofleather · 21/10/2010 09:12

www.thisismoney.co.uk/news/article.html?in_article_id=506806&in_page_id=2#ixzz12w6MMTOf

The article above shows that in a move not announced by the Chancellor but buried in the Budget documents, from 2012 this £40,000 tax credits income limit will be withdrawn. It
means that families with one child would receive no tax credits once they earn above £23,275.

This really worries me. It worries me much more than the cut in CB for higher earners as it will really push people into poverty.

HalloweeseG · 21/10/2010 09:12

I'm totally not painting him as a shyster at all, I have research scientists in my family and know that conditions are tough and pay is low, in this country.

Just an interested question.

shinybootsofleather · 21/10/2010 09:13

Sorry, link here:

articleid=506806&inpage_id=2#ixzz12w6MMTOf

shinybootsofleather · 21/10/2010 09:13

Oops,

articleid=506806&inpage_id=2#ixzz12w6MMTOf

sarah293 · 21/10/2010 09:14

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ImGideonsMumAndIHateHimToo · 21/10/2010 09:17

Hall I have an interview as a researcher next Monday

it's half term here, don't know about England

Can't get childcare; absolutely zero available. Partly through poor luck (half term club can;t run for completely one off reason), partly through isolation. All through SN.

Now, six years ago we were fairly sorted for chidlcare; my Mum and on occasiona FIL. Then FIL ran away with his younger firlfriend, and my BIL becmae severely ill so mum had to take on care for sister's children (and rightly so). Other sister had severe PND and went back to work before her son out of NICU; Mum handled that too.

And Mum now 60 miles away.

My boy's needs aren;t as severe as Riv's but becuase there are more children with needs IYSWIM then it would still cost a bomb. But we're not in th SE; before Dh was made redundant he was offered a transport manager job for £15k compared to the £40 he earned in a similar tole, and that seems fairly typical of wages here.

It is only be finishing my training that I can afford to have aNannyin place.

sarah293 · 21/10/2010 09:19

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ImGideonsMumAndIHateHimToo · 21/10/2010 09:19

And wrt to the rst, I haven't ahd even a glass of wine in a month

I eat that healthily Ihave lost a stone in the past month

I have never smoked or even tried drugs.

I was however raised near Millfield which makes me PMSL over the drugs thing.

HalloweeseG · 21/10/2010 09:20

I'm assuming that the carer wouldn't be insured if she were to work for you directly?

sarah293 · 21/10/2010 09:22

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ImGideonsMumAndIHateHimToo · 21/10/2010 09:24

Yep Riv, Mumcares for ninety year old Grandad as well as helping with the nephews and mine when she can.

Grandad doesn;t have alzheimers or anything like that, but was always desribed as 'odd'; we now realise he ahs autism. When Nan died Mum had to take over a carer role nobody really knew Nan even had. It seems Nan used to just lock him in a room at times and get on with her life.

Now, Mum is past retirement age anyway but cannot drive and Grandad lives away and after he stops driving (don't even go there; we have tried) she has no idea how she will manage. She will, though.

I can't remember whether the stat I rea drecently was 1/3 or 1/5 women of middle age were carers, whichever it was incredibly high.

sarah293 · 21/10/2010 09:25

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