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Big Society?

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itstimmytime · 19/07/2010 09:08

here and here

What do people think?

My major concern is that this policy is being developed only to absolve the government of its responsibility to those who are most in need.

There are many for whom the barriers preventing them from accessing their communities such as disability/mental health/language/old age etc are great and this requires major long term investment. There are communities people don't want to access because of (sometimes percieved) problems with drugs, violence, gangs etc. There are communities where people have no idea who their neighbour is, would like to be involved, but don't know where to begin.

I welcome any innovative thought in how to build community and deal with the issue of the 'ghettoisation' of some communities and the fragmentation of others. If people feel pride and ownership in their local community, then they might be more inclined to care more about the wee old lady down the road or the local primary school needing a new dinner hall.

I work in communities and in the last few years the council I work for has made massive inroads in integrating people more into their communities and trying to develop the existing resources. This has largely been successful, but there is much, much more work to be done (always will be!). We all know that local authorities will not have responsibility for delivering services in the future, but who will? Who will monitor it? And what will happen to the people who require support to remain in their communities?

I expect a lot of hyperbole from Cameron later and, as I live in Scotland, this won't affect us much as most elements of Cameron's plans are devolved!

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midnightexpress · 23/07/2010 00:11

Marvellous interview on PM tonight in which the wonderful Eddie Mair quizzed the minister responsible on his own volunteering, given that apparently we should ALL be volunteering now. Cue mutters and 'oooh, good question, now let me think, oh well er, MPs do lots of work with voluntary organisations you know as part of their job.'
Eddie: Yes, but that's your job, you're paid to do that aren't you?
Minister: Er, well yes, naughty of you to drop that question in really. Er.

sarah293 · 23/07/2010 07:37

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SanctiMoanyArse · 23/07/2010 09:11

Oh fab question about volunteering!

Cheeky buggers: Do as I say not as I do (becuase I'll be down the Commons bar snaffling hugely on expenses)

I'll remember that next time they do a diatribe on benefits claimsants and I'm sat at the PC sending information to people who need ASD support, although I wouldn't stop doing it becuase I like it. It makes me valid even if the Government still like to shove my arse in with a few less desirable groups when trying to make different points to fit their agenda.

midnightexpress · 23/07/2010 11:05

It was on the radio unfortunately Riven - I would have loved to see him squirm

I take it Callmedave hasn't been back for a follow-up visit to you?

merrymouse · 23/07/2010 11:29

"Our aim is to not only create the largest co-operative or mutual in Britain, but to create a mutual that is Britain. Every citizen can be a shareholder, contribute, receive help and rewards.

The Network is, above all, practical. It?s an enormous tool-box of advice, case histories, links to people and resources, using the power of the Internet, Mobiles and face-to-face action."

Well I looked at the Big Society website, but I can't work out whether the words I found on the site are supposed to form sentences, or if they were produced by a random text generator.

midnightexpress · 23/07/2010 11:32

It's a toolbox. You have to put the words together usong the tools to make the sentences yourself. Voluntarily. Not a nanny state in which the government should be expected to create meaningful sentences for you.

SanctiMoanyArse · 23/07/2010 12:42

PMSL

And you know what

I have that farking tool box (albeit a pink one with glittery handles) and open it often

Yet they're still gonna mess with my son's DLA

So it's still put in but don't take out

That's not a toolbox it's a receiving unit

A blue one with dark shadowy patterns and an old school tie

Sakura · 27/07/2010 08:16

longfingernails I really liked your post. NOt sure which parts of it I agree with, or not, but lots of food for thought.

Sakura · 27/07/2010 08:20

Okay, I disagree.'Big Society' sounds like a Big Con to get people to do the state's work for free.

Sakura · 27/07/2010 09:02

PMSL at Guardian comment:
"What if nobody volunteers?"

Reminds me of the PTA in Japan. If you're not one of the first to put your hand up to 'volunteer' you end up being the one "volunteering" to clean the toilets, coz all best 'voluntary' jobs get snapped up early on.

TDiddy · 31/07/2010 08:41

Cameron's big society is a clever way of putting an ideological framework around necessary public sector cuts and giving it positive spin?

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