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My DS can now tell the difference between alive and dead people

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Nat1H · 20/09/2008 21:18

He is 5 and has has seen many dead people, and described them in detail to us. We have 2 men, a rabbit and a dog in the house. We also have a girl (who he has named Suki) who sits in a particular chair, reading a book. When she has finished reading, she slams the book down on the arm of the chair, and frightens my DS (he hates sudden, loud noises).
The other day, he was playing with something dangerous, so I said "Don't play with that - it's dangerous and could kill you"
He replied... "Then I'd be dead - like Suki (pointing) in there."
I must admit, this comment made me go cold. I am not scared by it - I have got used to him describing people to me, but how much further will this progress?
If you are phsychic - when did you begin to realise the difference?

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DrHorrible · 21/09/2008 16:52

Why is a 5 year old watching news about stabbings?? He is a child, and by the sounds of the brain damage, he should still be an innocent child

SaintGeorge · 21/09/2008 16:56

Well personally I wouldn't let a child of 5 watch the news but I am not sure what relevance that has here. I did not mention anything about the dangers in society or people stabbed to death.

I was actually referring to your "Don't play with that - it's dangerous and could kill you" comment. I personally think that was OTT for a 5 yr old and would have been better handled the way I described but each to their own.

Nat1H · 21/09/2008 20:24

Fair point SaintGeorge, but we have strayed off the point a bit!!
Anyway, I'm off - I was hoping for somebody who had personally experienced something like this to answer my thread, rather than mostly sceptics - but that's what you get for posting on MN I suppose!

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SaintGeorge · 21/09/2008 21:25

I am not a sceptic. I posted asking the sceptics to be more polite.

I offered some advice, waited for you to come back and intended to keep up the dialogue.

However, you somehow managed to read something completely different into my post.

I am psychic to a degree, however I did not directly answer your question because my background would make my answer irrelevant to your situation.

I notice you managed to ignore goober's posts whilst getting wound up the sceptics.

DrHorrible · 21/09/2008 21:27

That was much more polite than my reply StG!

I am also not a sceptic, but seeing as you have ignore and/or been rude to two of my friends, I don't wanna play any more.

DrHorrible · 21/09/2008 21:27

(my non-posted reply)

SaintGeorge · 21/09/2008 21:30

And while I can still be arsed to post, I would like to point out that any straying from the point was done by you Nat.

Hey ho and away I go.

themildmannneredjanitor · 21/09/2008 21:32

you should stop watching things like this and start watching things like this!!!!!

and don't talk to a 5 year old about stabbings and things killing him!

Nat1H · 21/09/2008 21:39

Sorry if I offended you SaintGeorge - I don't think you are a sceptic at all! I was aiming that comment at the others!
I admit - I did stray off the point a little - when talking about the news etc. - but I was trying to make the point that I am honest with my children.
I don't outwardly talk about death, unless they ask. I have never suggested that the people my DS has seen might be dead. I listen to him, then change the subject usually.
I really think we are on the same wavelength SaintGeorge, but I really didn't explain myself well! I find it really hard to explain what has been happening for the past 3 years in a sentence TBH!
Sorry!

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SaintGeorge · 21/09/2008 21:54

Apology accepted.

Shall we start again?

I became aware at an early age, but my mum is a spiritualist so I think that probably had a lot of bearing on it. However, I lost the ability quite young too. Now my psychic senses have developed in a different way but I very rarely 'see' anyone anymore.

I think most children probably never become really aware of what it is they are feeling/seeing because those senses close down at quite a young age in the majority.

In those that don't lose it, I suspect that any awareness probably comes at about the same age that they move on from imaginative play (7/8 ? not sure) and on to more structured/practical game play IYSWIM. Unfortunately I can't offer any personal insight so I am guessing.

Your DS's brain damage may have some bearing on his abilities as well as his understanding of what he is seeing.

If he isn't scared or worried by anything he sees, then try to just go with the flow. If he wants to to talk to you about it, he will. Otherwise just carry on as normal.

See my early post about how to try to handle Suki.

themildmannneredjanitor · 21/09/2008 21:58

do you not think st g that if your mum was a spiritualist that you were just very influenced by what was seen as being normal? mummy sees so so can i?

DrHorrible · 21/09/2008 22:00

or look at it the other way TMMJ - if you are not raised with someone who believes and brushes off what you see, you don't believe and tell yourself you are imagining things?

SaintGeorge · 21/09/2008 22:06

No, because at the time I wasn't aware of what my mum could do.

mabanana · 21/09/2008 22:08

I think it's completely wrong and cruel to be so morbid with a vulnerable child. It's all nonsense, and he is making this stuff up because his mother - the person he most wants attention from in the whole world - is gives him so much attention for it, and it's scaring him. Stop hanging on his every word, say, 'Yes, dear' and instantly change the subject, protect him from gruesome stuff on the news and let him be a little boy.

frecklyspeckly · 21/09/2008 22:15

just to jump in - my dd has started saying she is 'seeing her old family' granny,big brothers, etc and I dont know how to handle it. And I think the problem for you nat is very real and something you cant ignore.I should imagine with ds condition you feel even more protective over things upsetting him, how to understand it yourself and then explain it to a child, any child, must be a nightmare. FWIW with us I feel certain with dd it has been triggered by the loss of my granny -I was directly involved in the sorting out of her affairs - and she has absorbed this. And I do believe !- could you try doing something like opening the door and saying 'Bye' to these 'guests' with him, and if he mentions them say, 'but we sent them away'? or would that just make things worse? I dont know . Hope it gets sorted soon.

Meid · 21/09/2008 22:23

Nat, when I was a child I used to see other people that no-one else could see. It frightened me and I told my family who (I thought) didn't take any notice. My mum has told me since she was worried about it make a decision not to give me any attention over it for fear of frightening me more.

It stopped about the age of 4 or 5.

To this day I have no explanation for what I saw. Incidentally I don't believe I saw dead people but I also know I didn't imagine it. For me, its just one of those unexplained things.

Nat1H · 22/09/2008 11:24

Thanks everyone for being so honest!
Mabanana - you have got hold of completely the wrong end of the stick. I do not encourage him when he starts to talk about it, I DO listen, then change the subject. I have never encouraged this by bringing up the subject - he has always instigated it. I do not believe in 'brushing off' children when they are talking about something I dislike. I prefer to listen and try to understand/reassure my child.
He does not actively watch the news, but there have been occasions when myself and husband have been watching, and my older child has asked questions. Of course DS2 has been in the room and listening at the time.
It is not actually scaring him - it's more me. he is very matter of fact about it - it's completely normal to him. I was just wondering if anyone else had ever had similar experiences in the past.

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