Meet the Other Phone. Protection built in.

Meet the Other Phone.
Protection built in.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

Philosophy/religion

Join our Philosophy forum to discuss religion and spirituality.

I would like to expereience wearing a full veil

40 replies

StressTeddy · 11/07/2008 20:55

Now please note - I do NOT want this to become a discussion about whether the veil is right or wrong

I would really like to wear the full veil for a day to see how I am treated. please tell me what you think of this. Do you think it is a good idea?
I have been thinking about this for a long time as it would help me to rally appreciate how it feels to be looked at differently.

I would appreciate your thoughts and want to have an open discussion here - please do not turn this into something it is not meant to be

Thank you

OP posts:
Amphibimum · 12/07/2008 20:33

scared? whatever for? lol

southeastastra · 12/07/2008 20:35

i suppose because she can't see the people behind them, she's 80

PeachyBAHons · 12/07/2008 20:35

'surely buddhism differs a lot from Xianity? '

not necessarily- many believe Jesus was a Bodhisattva (person who holds back from nirvava in order to return to life until all mankind has achieved release, eg amitabha)

if you look at the goals of the bodhisatva and compare tjose with Jesus they're similar-mits the 'window dressing' that isn't...

and of course there's ure land Buddhism which seems almost a hybrid

PeachyBAHons · 12/07/2008 20:35

p ure land obv

Desiderata · 12/07/2008 20:37

It scares me too, if I'm honest. I don't like the full veil. I think it's really creepy.

slim22 · 12/07/2008 20:44

Interesting.....but pointless IMO

Most women who feel oppressed by the veil are oppressed by their traditionalist families/social circles. In that respect, the incomprehension of western eyes is the least of their worries.
And that's an experience you are unlikely to replicate.

( I'm a secular muslim)

Amphibimum · 12/07/2008 20:44

my mil is 80-odd. we were up in dundee visiting recently and sitting at the park one day. a family of indian-looking people walked by and she said something like 'i dinnea like they people. the darkies are all right, but they people, they just keep themselves to themselves and dinnea want tea mix, theyre just horrid.' i was taken aback and said 'but xxx ! what on earth are you talking about? if people felt that way about you, would you want to mix with them much?' she thought ity over and said, 'ay, right, i suppose thats true.'
she was probably just paying lipservice though as twas obvious i didnt agree... but i like to hope that i changed her mind a little bit.

i dont think always thinking something is a good enough reason to go on thinking it tbh.

Amphibimum · 12/07/2008 20:47

oh yes, you would only get to experience one tiny, possibly insignificant, aspect of the lives of people in veils. i assume they are all individuals with different personalities, circs, families, thought processes, reasons...

slim22 · 12/07/2008 20:47

I also find full niqab VERY creepy.
I live in SE Asia. The traditional colorful veils that women wear here are much more cheerful.

ChaCha · 12/07/2008 21:44

I have worn the full veil when shopping in an extremely male dominated souk in the Middle East. It was great! I haggled, shopped, chatted comfortably without feeling intimidated, stared at, 'chatted up' etc.. felt v.carefree and really enjoyed it. There are parts of the world where the general headscarf (hijab) is not seen as a statement of one's piety but rather a fashion accessory that is the icing on the cake complimenting full make up, tight top/jeans, high heels etc.. Hope that makes sense.

Also if i wore a niqab (which i wouldn't) for whatever reason I doubt that i'd be interested in shopping malls and drinking coffee - I mean how do you drink a coffee and 'relax' while in a full face veil - a lot of women i know who do choose to veil in this way are not the type of women you'd find sipping lattes in high street coffee shops or window shopping in local mall. They would probably only be out in a group anyway, preferably a male relative too.

stitch · 15/07/2008 00:55

when in hot countries , wearing a scarf, i have been known to cover my head, and my face with it, purely for practical reasons. ie, not wanting to get sunburnt. not wanting a tan so my foundation is no longer appropriate. etc
and in cold countries, i have been known to cover my face with a scarf because it is toooo cold.
very very pracctical garment, a veil.l

ninedragons · 15/07/2008 01:09

I always used to think if I were Princess Diana I would have worn a niqab to get a bit of privacy and peace.

Nobody would look twice at a woman getting out of a black Mercedes in Kensington wearing a full veil.

slim22 · 15/07/2008 04:45

Well ninedragons, your comment gives a very accurate view of some women's motives.

Nowadays in North Africa and the middle east, in countries that have always been quite tolerant and "westernised", many young women, divorcees etc... do wear the veil for the only purpose of escaping scrutiny and doing all sorts of "mischief".

Same is true of 2nd & third generation muslim girls born and bread in Europe.

2sugars · 15/07/2008 05:28

Why don't you just report back once you've done it?

Have you already got a veil, or are you throwing good money at it?

I'm a bit sceptical about your reasons for doing it, tbh. Wouod you find it interesting, for example, to see if you had the same reaction if you pretended to be disabled, deaf, blind?

ninedragons · 15/07/2008 05:30

Oh yeah, I understand that aspect of it completely.

I wouldn't be at all surprised to find out that Madonna does wear one. It must be a gigantic pain in the arse to be tailed by a pack of photographers all day.

New posts on this thread. Refresh page