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Mixing Faiths / Syncretism

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MotherMarysStylist · 31/01/2018 01:59

Hi,

I was wondering whether you had 2 different faiths in your family, possibly more, or if you followed one religion whilst adopting aspects of another?

It's official title is syncretism, it was said to be common in the UK where Pagan and Christian beliefs were mixed.

I was thinking in modern day terms such as the trend for self awareness / meditation / can't remember the name of the other popular trend, then having Christian beliefs, which the higher you get up the less you're meant to do say yoga, as it's believed to be bad for some reason.

My thoughts are God is All loving and forgiving, as long as you have faith, is he really that fussed if you meditate or do yoga etc. Another example Romany Gypsies are typically Catholic I believe, some are said to have talents that don't fit in with the Catholic faith, such as palm reading and any form of divination.

You could be a blended family that takes elements from 2 or more very different faiths. Ultimately even Pagan's believe in God, found this out reading about the Super Moon tomorrow.

You have atheists who will get their children baptised, get married in church, another thing is children who go to religious schools such as Catholic ones, with somewhat atheist parents, who buy into the first communion I think children do aged 7/8. So even with atheism you can have syncretism.

If you don't but have views on it, would love to hear them.

I remember cousins going on a Gap Year, considering themselves Christian but taking an interest in Hindu & Buddhist practises.

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purpleangel17 · 03/02/2018 08:22

speakout - I am not an expert on the Bible and there are many competing interpretations in Christianity. I do know the Bible says the only unforgivable sin is to deny Jesus when you know for certain in your heart He is true. I believe it also says Jesus is the judge on judgement day. By that measure most atheists, agnostics or other religions are savable on judgement day if they believe when they see him with their own eyes and only not if they then turn away. That is one interpretation. I also believe those who died as babies, for example, or who don't have mental capacity or who never heard of Christianity must be able to be saved. I just can't see a just God turning them away. But as I said there are many interpretations and I am still working out what I believe.

Lessstressedhemum · 03/02/2018 09:20

I would never do things like tarot, reiki, spell casting or such. I won't even allow tarot cards in the house, much to DD's disgust. One of my friends from church went to a psychic evening thing recently and I was horrified! I'm too much of a Presbyterian for any of that. I just like to recognise and mark the turning of the seasons, the flow of time and the bounty of nature, really, and observing some of the old festivals seems like a good way to do that. Reformed churches don't have things like Candlemas or Michaelmas or the other ones that tie in with quarter and cross-quarter days.

I absolutely believe that most people are worshipping the same God, just in different ways. We are all, as far as I am concerned, God's children. Finding common ground and acceptance can only be a good thing.

Lessstressedhemum · 03/02/2018 09:29

Speaking, I agree with purple, re judgement etc. Jesus intercede for us with God and is the final judge. I have been Christian all my life and am a church elder in a Presbyterian church. My faith is strong, secure and based on years of reading, study and prayer. But I still believe that there are more things in heaven and earth than we understand and so we should look for common ground and embrace it, as long as it doesn't compromise or impinge upon our core beliefs and values, whatever they may be.

speakout · 03/02/2018 12:38

I would rather not be included in being "one of god's children! thanks.

Makes the guy sound like Jimmy Saville

Lessstressedhemum · 03/02/2018 14:32

Ok, sorry if I have offended you. It's just the Christian point of view. It's supposed to help us realise that we all have a common humanity and that we should love and respect everyone regardless of our differences.

I know that this is what we should be doing anyway, but some folk just need a wee reminder. Some branches of Christianity can be very insular and view themselves as the only "right" way. The God's children thing should be a guard against that. I didn't mean to say anything that would upset or offend anyone.

speakout · 03/02/2018 14:41

Sorry, didn't mean to snap.

Simply the idea of a boss in charge irks me.

Lessstressedhemum · 03/02/2018 15:15

It's OK. We all snap sometimes and faith is a divisive subject.

OutwiththeOutCrowd · 05/02/2018 10:46

The idea of the divine within us, or indeed animals, trees, lakes, mountains is for some the antithesis of christian thinking

I’m intrigued by one of the statements made by Jesus to the Pharisees in the King James Version of the Bible:

The kingdom of God cometh not with observation: Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.

Most later translations prefer ‘in your midst’ or ‘among you’, suggesting that Jesus is referring to himself as the gateway to the divine. For example, the New International Version gives:

nor will people say, 'Here it is,' or 'There it is,' because the kingdom of God is in your midst.

Given the context, I think the older translation makes more sense but it seems that later translators had theological misgivings about a statement that suggested human beings could be described in such an upbeat way!

Interestingly, Rumi the Muslim poet appears to pick up on the more mystical interpretation in his writings. (His works predate the KJV by several hundred years.)

Where is that Moon that never rises or sets? Where is that soul that is neither with nor without us? Don't say it is here or there. All creation is Him but for the eyes that can see

OutwiththeOutCrowd · 05/02/2018 10:48

Christianity in my humble opinion syncretised too much with European pagan beliefs: trinity, Yule, oestre

I would add the Eucharist as an example of syncretism. With the consuming of blood being prohibited in Judaism, I can’t see Jesus as a devout Jew coming up with the idea of including it in a ritual, even in a symbolic way, whatever is written in the Gospels.

Vitalogy · 05/02/2018 17:14

the kingdom of God is within you.
Also, Jesus answered, "...'I SAID, YOU ARE GODS' " John 10:34, Psalm 82:6-7*
The so called explanation of these phrase by many translators are to move us away from the truth though.

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