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Can I baptise my child both Catholic and C of E?

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PixieCake · 13/03/2015 22:42

I am Catholic and my husband is C of E.
We go to both churches so that our children will know both.
Does anyone know if we can baptise our child twice, once in each church so that she is both C of E and Catholic?

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M0rT · 15/03/2022 20:50

@Kendodd I can only answer for the Catholic church but you don't get a membership card or at least I've never got one!
When you are baptised, usually as a baby, your parents are given a copy of your baptismal certificate. Baptism or conversion is what makes you a member of the church.
You need this to make your other sacraments in a Catholic church throughout your life.
If it's lost a new one can be issued by the church you were baptised in as they will have a record of it.
When they talk about church membership its a way of saying who can have sacraments performed in that religions churches/by their priests and also stuff like Bishops talking about the 1m Catholics in their diocese and how provisions should be made for their beliefs eg faith school funding, in the past divorce legislation, abortion, contraception etc.

Kendodd · 15/03/2022 21:06

Thank you
And so their members are the number of baptisms done, whether people attend church or not?

Pandypuff · 17/03/2022 23:32

My vicar told me that anyone may only be baptised once. A second baptism is a 'reaffirmation' and not a baptism. If you are baptised a second time into another religion then I expect only the most recent baptism will be counted. It would be as though the child had converted from the first religion to the second. And no, people can't have two religions. Or they can but they wouldn't be true followers of either (if one is Christianity)

speakout · 18/03/2022 06:13

My vicar told me that anyone may only be baptised once.

But they clearly can- and that is only the view of one vicar and one church.
My mother has been baptised many times, and the past few times the pastors/bishops insisted on new baptisms because this one would be the one that was "real".

GoodnessTruthBeauty · 18/03/2022 13:39

In the Catholic Church (as I assume the C of E) we believe in ONE baptism. So as long as it had the right form and the baby/individual was baptised "In the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit" then it is a valid baptism. So Christian baptisms who use this form of baptism (Baptists, Pentacostals, Lutherans, C of E etc) can all become Catholics and do not need to be "re-baptised".

However, people from a faith such as Mormonism that talk about Jesus but who do not believe in the Trinity and don't actually have the same understanding of Jesus as Christians, would need a Christian baptism.

Your baptism is recorded and you can therefore get evidence that you have been baptised when you are ready and desire to have the other sacraments of the Church (First Holy Communion, Reconciliation, Confirmation, Marriage etc.).

If there is no evidence of your baptism (no records, no witnesses etc) you can receive a Conditional Baptism as a Catholic which means the Church is Baptizing you because we are not sure if you ever received a Christian baptism previously.

Baptism is a Sacrament and entry into the Church in Catholic theology so it is taken seriously.

MiddleParking · 18/03/2022 13:44

This is such a weird one to resurrect (no joke intended) seven years later Grin and very hilarious that a ‘Catholic’ OP thought this would be ok!

SoyaChai · 18/03/2022 22:34

How would they know?

If you go your Catholic church and have your child baptised there, how would the C of E church know that they have been baptised Catholic? Surely you just wouldn't mention it if it would be an issue.

Pandypuff · 18/03/2022 23:57

@speakout

My vicar told me that anyone may only be baptised once.

But they clearly can- and that is only the view of one vicar and one church.
My mother has been baptised many times, and the past few times the pastors/bishops insisted on new baptisms because this one would be the one that was "real".

It's not the view of one vicar.

If you're baptised again in the same church it's not a batism, it's a reaffirmation.

If you're baptised into another church it's like you've left the first church and chosen the second. Technically.

I am not actually a member of just one church denomination (I am a Christian but work abroad a lot and so go to other churches when abroad). But still, only need to be baptised once.

ZenNudist · 19/03/2022 00:10

Catholic churches don't give communion to non-catholics. In practice they never ask if you rock up with your hands out. My friend is a methodist and goes for communion at my Catholic Church. We had a priest who wouldn't let her and now have one who will. Strictly its not good.

No you cant be c of e and Catholic. To be baptised Catholic your parents have to promise to raise you Catholic.

unfortunateevents · 19/03/2022 00:32

Why does your child have to be baptised twice? Are you and your husband baptised twice?! If not why is it desirable for your child? They obviously don't have to be baptised in that faith to attend church - although as several others have said, you shouldn't be receiving communion in each other's church.

GoodnessTruthBeauty · 19/03/2022 04:51

@ZenNudist you are encouraging your friend to take Communion in direct contradiction of Catholic teaching. I doubt your friend, not being Catholic is aware of this but you clearly are.

"Therefore whoever eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord unworthily will have to answer for the Body and Blood of the Lord... for anyone who eats and drinks without discerning the body, eats and drinks judgement on himself." (1 Corinthians 11:27, 29)

This is one of the reasons we don't allow people who are not Catholic to receive Communion because not understanding the seriousness of the reality of Christ's Body and Blood is expressly warned against in The New Testament.

sashh · 19/03/2022 05:03

OP

I assume you were married in church. But you were not married in two different churches.

C of E and RC churches see Baptism as something that can only happen once.

There are similar ceremonies that are not baptism eg if a child was baptised by a nurse in hospital because the baby was not expected to live.

Then a priest / vicar can perform a welcoming or naming ceremony the same way a marriage in a register office can be blessed in church.

In your position I'd talk to your local vicar and priest (ideally together) and see what they can recommend, it might be a baptism in one church with a representative from the other present.

speakout · 19/03/2022 06:31

Pandypuff my mother has been baptised 6 times- in different churches.

ZenNudist · 21/03/2022 21:18

Just came back to this thread and will reply to @GoodnessTruthBeauty. My friend already spoke to our priest about it. It was several years ago this came up when we got a new priest. She asked permission to attend communion and he said that although it's not allowed he doesn't turn anyone away. At the time I expressed surprise that he would do this and said strictly she needs to convert. I didn't say it judgementally. I certainly didn't badger her.

That said she doesn't come much now. She leaves Catholic Church to her H and dc and goes to her usual Church.

Said friend is responsible for me coming back to the Catholic Church. She's a good and faithful Christian who never wavered from the faith, unlike me. So not my place to judge.

Plenty of people in church at the moment play acting Catholic faith for first Holy communion or baptism. I think something can stick and as with the gospel on Sunday (fig tree not bearing fruit but the gardener giving it more time not cutting it down just yet) I think very apt here. The story is not over and people letting faith into their lives can eventually be a blessing.

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