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Atheists- do you ever want to believe?

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TheSarcasticFringehead · 26/05/2014 15:30

I'm an atheist (although brought up Jewish). I always knew how important religion was to us as a family, of course, we were liberal but it was central and I loved every bit of it and even now I still love some aspects, the togetherness I felt, I think.

But it's only recently that I've kind of been awed by how important it is- my grandmother is Jewish and is currently in a Jewish care home. She has middle stage Alzheimer's and struggles to remember us sometimes. But Shabbat services, for example, it's ingrained in her, almost. I know she will forget them and she does currently struggle with them, but it is comforting (for both of us).

It has carried her through a lot and she's lost a lot in life but never her religion. It makes me wish I could believe and have that strong sense of faith and belonging. Her faith has led to horrible things, but I wish I had that ability to believe and think there's something higher/something better/someone who is in charge, so there's a reason for what happens and it isn't just luck and chance. I can't make myself believe and I am happy as an atheist, but I do feel a bit wistful for when I believed.

Anyone else?

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Helpys · 27/05/2014 23:21

I'm not an atheist, I chose to believe.
I don't know it's true, I have faith.
It's very comforting, it is a crutch I suppose, but the overwhelming sense of 'it'll be all right in the end and if it's not all right, it's not the end', gives me strength and comfort.
I work with some very strong Christians who often cite evidence and try and prove the unprovable, which to me is sort of missing the point. Belief is a choice.

Whathaveiforgottentoday · 28/05/2014 01:09

No, I think i've always been an atheist and I find the thought of believing in a god a very alien concept. I just don't get why they need it, despite obviously seeing lots of people get a great deal of comfort from their faith. I guess my brain just doesn't work that way. I don't remember believing in santa or the tooth fairy either but I went along with it obviously for the presents/money to keep my parents happy.

exexpat · 28/05/2014 01:16

I can see there are times when it would be comforting to believe - for example when DH died, it might have been nice if I could have believed he was 'in a better place', as people told me, rather than just gone for ever.

But really if I stop and think about it for 30 seconds, I am comfortable with my lack of belief and wouldn't want to be in thrall to some supposed higher power. I like approaching the world on my terms, with logic and empathy rather than rules based on some kind of scripture.

I've been atheist since the age of 7 or 8, when I asked too many questions at Sunday school and realised that 'because the Bible says so' wasn't a satisfactory answer.

TheSpottedZebra · 28/05/2014 01:21

I don't want to believe - as in, I am an atheist and my beliefs are as true to me as a god is to a theist - but I suppose sometimes the convenience of a woo/faith answer might be nice. Especially around explaining death to a child - the 'gone to heaven' story is less stark than 'dead'.

beatingwings · 28/05/2014 06:54

spotted- but don't you find the idea of a god allowing a child to die when he could save them more than a little dusturbing? Especially if he allows it to happen en masse as in the developing countries.
He's some god if he is happy to allow such suffering for his own mysterious ends.

However devastating the death of a child is, it is of greater comfort to me as an athiest knowing that it was a random act,rather than knowing someone could have prevented it but chose not to.

TheSarcasticFringehead · 28/05/2014 09:50

Now, I think having a Father Christmas type guy would be nice. Although he is a bit creepy (all the sneaking into people's houses) he gives you nice things and shouldn't be giving more to rich or poor people if he was real, he doesn't kill you or send you to Hell, he just doesn't give you presents. Smile

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expatinscotland · 28/05/2014 09:52

It would be nice, I agree, but I just don't believe.

TheSpottedZebra · 28/05/2014 11:10

spotted- but don't you find the idea of a god allowing a child to die...

Oh, 100% yes. I am out and out an atheist - there is no way I could ever reconcile that point. I meant more the explaining that a beloved old great granny, a guinea pig etc is dead. Faith allows them to be all magic and star in the sky. I just have to say that they are dead now and not coming back.

JonSnowKnowsNothing · 28/05/2014 11:16

No. Never. I see the atrocities carried out across the world in the name of religion and feel disgust. The only thing I have faith in is humanity.

However devastating the death of a child is, it is of greater comfort to me as an athiest knowing that it was a random act,rather than knowing someone could have prevented it but chose not to.

I feel exactly the same, Beatingwings

FreeSpirit89 · 29/05/2014 13:21

I envy people who have faith, at my grandfathers funeral a lady said to me with knowing eyes "you'll see him again" and I wished so much in that moments it was true.

But I don't believe.

mrsbucketxx · 29/05/2014 14:08

i actually feel sorry for those who have "faith"

like all their belief system all comes to nothing in the end. i have never had any faith so cant really comment on how it is when someone loses it etc.

i also dislike the fact it gives believers excuses to act badly, and not have any consequences for their actions as all will be forgiven. or that many many crimes against women disabled, minorities are masked as religious belief.

i never want to be associated with any of that.

ohmymimi · 29/05/2014 22:38

Absolutely not, never ever.

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