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What do catholics believe?

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Orinoco · 03/04/2006 22:33

My sister's MIL wants dniece to go to the local catholic school. My sister doesn't have any objection to the school - except that she's not a catholic and doesn't know how what they believe compares to what we were taught at baptist sunday school.

Can anyone enlighten us?

Thanks

OP posts:

notasheep · 03/04/2006 22:58

So i had an excuse for not giving up chocolate

Tommy · 03/04/2006 22:59

I think that would be All Souls Day tbh (1st Nov)

expatinscotland · 03/04/2006 22:59

Sorry, MT, I was thinking of Halloween. I am foreign and the first thing that comes to mind when I hear 'bonfire' night is the huge parades in Mexico on the night of Halloween, people bearing torches and bonfires and candles.

monkeytrousers · 03/04/2006 23:00

doh

monkeytrousers · 03/04/2006 23:01

That was a joke about 15-1 BTW

Right, g'night!

expatinscotland · 03/04/2006 23:03

arrggh! a joke i failed to get!

night night. i really SHOULD finish this report . . .

Tortington · 03/04/2006 23:39

god will sue, he told the pope ( who told me on the popephone) that he has hired a firm of solicitors called ansty cowfold. god said they will rip you a new arsehole

katetom · 04/04/2006 01:10

They believe its possible for grown men to be celibate. They believe that homsexuality is wrong but puting small kids in the care of celibate men is not. They believe that woman arent good enough to stand up and preach or run the church but that men are. They believe if you are not a Catholic you wont go to heaven. I know all this as i was raised in the catholic faith, sorry if i've offended anyone by the way, its just how i've come to view it.

Chandra · 04/04/2006 01:42

Excuse me Expat, Day of the Dead in Mexico is NOT the same day as Halloween but 2 days afterwards on Nov the 2nd. Where did you see it, Oaxaca? other place lost in the Mexican rainforest? Lucky you! being a MExican I always wanted to see it but... never had the oportunity to travel that far in that specific date :)

katyp · 04/04/2006 07:56

OK, on a more serious note (and to stop Orinoco's sister having palpitations at some of the things you guys have said!).....

IME, most Catholic schools and priests/teachers these days are much more liberal in their views/teachings than when I was growing up. So much so that I know of a few Catholic families who are quite "traditional" in their beliefs (eg don't believe in contraception and so have 12 kids!) refuse to send their kids there!
Don't want to offend anyone who truly goes along with what the Pope says, but most Catholics I have come across in this country have a "pick and mix" approach to their religion and in reality their actual beliefs are pretty similar to CofE, for example.

Most schools teach "Christian" rather than "Catholic" beliefs in the early years. If your sister is not bringing your niece up as a Catholic, your niece would join in with prayers, masses, etc but wouldn't make her First Communion, for example.

notasheep · 06/04/2006 21:28

And on a lighter note,you dont have to eat fish on Fridays

Bugsy2 · 06/04/2006 21:47

Orinoco your sister may find it very tough to get her dd into the Catholic school if she & her dh are not Catholic. Where I live in London, she wouldn't stand a chance!

Bozza · 06/04/2006 21:57

I am not a Catholic but I thought they believed in the Trinity (but don't all Christians except Unitarians), that Jesus died to take on the sins of the world, that you need to repent of said sins to receive salvation but then they have their own extra take on that in that you have to confess to the priest rather than directly to God through prayer and that you have penance for sins (Hail Marys etc), they also have a more exalted view of Mary and the saints than would Protestants, they also believe in the infallibility of the Pope, that contraception is wrong, and that the priesthood should be male and celibate and in the transubstantiation of the bread and wine.

cori · 06/04/2006 21:57

A summary of what catolics believe can be seen in the Apostles creed. A preayer recited at mass.
'I believe in God the Father Almighty,
Creator of Heaven and Earth.
I believe in Jesus Christ his only Son, our Lord.
He was conceived by the power of the Holy Spirit
and born of the Virgin Mary.
He suffered under Pontius Pilate,
was crucified, died and was buried.
He descended to the dead.
On the third day he rose again.
He ascended into heaven and is seated
at the right hand of the Father.
He will come again to judge the living and the dead.
I believe in the Holy Spirit, the Holy Catholic Church,
the Communion of Saints, the forgiveness of sins,
the resurrection of the body and life everlasting. Amen.'

traceyinrosso · 07/04/2006 20:05

We attend Methodist church 2-3 sundays per month were considering Catholic High School for our daughter but been told because not baptized ( had dedication services for each child so they could decide for themselves later) we may not be classed as Church goers under their definition but a Catholic child who has never been through the doors of a Church since few weeks old would be considered as "in" under their admissions policy. If we put them on our application form ( we get 3 choices) we have to put them first or they won't consider us and then we are futher down priority for other schools.Help!!! Catholic friend said just take them to priest to have them baptized Catholic then don't worry you won't have to take them again!!! How bad is that !! We feel it would be best school for her for several reasons but not sure i appreciate being classed as heathen just because I don't have piece of paper saying baptized Catholic.Oh well the joys of having a conscience I couldn't be hypocritical just to get her in - anyone else got similar dillemas and how did you resolve them?

Mosschops30 · 07/04/2006 20:17

she may only be admitted to the school if she's baptised in the Christian faith. dd was baptised (non-catholic) and is in Catholic school, although I have now converted and she will be taking first holy communion soon.
What someone said about a pick and mix attitude is a pretty good example, I dont believe evrything that the catholic church teach but I do respect its morals and understand why they have these.
Cant say I have experienced any of that 'fire and brimstone' stuff I'd expected from the catholic church, all seems very laid back really

SleepyJess · 07/04/2006 20:20

What about the 'original sin' bit that newborns apparently have?

PinkTulips · 07/04/2006 20:21

that little babies are born carrying original sin thanks to eve and will go to pergatory unless christened

that we receive the actual body and blood of christ in holy communion as he sacrificed himself for the sins of man

that woman is created of man and that she fcked it all up by being a hungry btch and listening to talking snakes

that sex is evil but if you must do it using protection makes it worse

that priests must remain celebite for their church, but it's ok for them to shag the housekeepers as long as they don't knock them up

that mary is the virgin mother of god

Mosschops30 · 07/04/2006 20:22

ooh pink tulips are you a trifle bitter

PinkTulips · 07/04/2006 20:24

catholic convent school will do that to you

ridiculous thing is i'm having my dd christened in a couple of months as i'm not properly atheist, just angry at a church that clings to outdated, misguided beliefs even when it's clear things need to change.

Mosschops30 · 07/04/2006 20:28

i went to catholic convent too. Do think that things have changed drastically recently though, think they have had too.
My priest is lovely and really doesnt bang on too much about crap, which is why I like him

Mosschops30 · 07/04/2006 20:28

the bloody nuns at my convent were bitches too!

PinkTulips · 07/04/2006 20:33

i've been taking a bit of a sabbatical from mass going to prepare me for having to drag the kids every week when they're older.

not to mention that as me and dp can't afford to get married any time soon we're a little frowned apun by the clergy in the west of ireland! when the church rep came round to round up the names of all the parishoners he spoke to my dp, who told him straight out we weren't married but have a child. when the church dues envelopes arrived they were addressed to X & Y Surname! age old catholic tactic of if we don't aknowlage it it's not happening!

PinkTulips · 07/04/2006 20:34

don't talk to me about nuns! had one in the basement classroom who would hit you on the legs with her cane if you didn't carry her teapot up the stairs for her!

nzshar · 07/04/2006 20:37

The idea pergatory is no longer a teaching of the Catholic church. All children are now innocent of true sin till confirmation when officially accepted into the catholic church as an adult (around 16)

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