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If you have faith (in anything) - did you have an experience that led you to believe?

36 replies

cherryburton · 23/05/2011 16:51

Am just pondering the sort of incidents that might inspire faith (and wanting to have one!) Grin

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cherryburton · 20/06/2011 10:55

Morning!

There's a few other discussions on the board at the moment about life after death and so many people have had experiences of something and so much of it related to light... Really makes me think there must be something in it...

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birdofthenorth · 20/06/2011 12:02

For me it was slowburn having always felt a bit of a starter-light there, but it grew quickly after a series of near-miss decisions about jobs, houses, locations etc led me & DH quite by chance to a fantastic home, a life-changing job for him that has been great for us all, & the very conveniently timed conception of our DD. Hard not to feel we had been guided away from the wrong decisions and towards the 'right' path. Started going to church more to essentially say thank you for our lucky life & DD, & found faith grew a lot from then on, & has been v helpful since (eg through death of a friend).

springydaffs · 01/07/2011 22:41

wow, great story bird. it's not that usual that people turn to God because they're so happy they want to thank somebody! It's usually the other way around, that people are so desperate that in their darkest hour with nowhere else to turn...

Didn't realise this thread had been added to, stopped watching it because felt a bit Blush that my story had been so long. BLUSH.

I do go to church cherry but at the mo it is a bit of an uphill slog as I don't really get on with churchgoers. ok ok that's going to have a lot to do with me probably but I just find them all a bit weird (they obviously think the same about me!). I try to go to church every week and also go to a housegroup during the week. This is to keep the oil flowing iyswim. I suppose it's the only part of my relationshp with God that is a discipline if you like - I keep plugging away at it.

To keep things going with him I pray, read the bible, watch speakers on the internet, read books. The most important bit for a sense of intimacy is praying - I just talk to him, pray for other people, pray for myself and things coming up in my life, pray for things happening in the world. Then I talk to him generally about things, as I go along. My prayers are usually summed up in what he has said in the bible ie I usually sum up with what the bible says and call him on it (for want of a better word) ie say "this is what you said and you never lie" It's reminding him of a contract he made with us, therefore me. It's called faith I think re the poster who had a talk with God and said 'look, I know you can do this' - that was faith imo.

serajen · 02/07/2011 03:47

just ask, be humble and true, see what happens

mathanxiety · 02/07/2011 05:40

Until I went to some funerals of family members all in the same year I hadn't really given my religion much thought or appreciation, but those funeral rites pressed home to me a sense of the goodness of God. I felt very sure that those two dear people were in Heaven, that this is what awaits us all, and it was very comforting.

A few years later, I was at a low point in my life, marriage over, not a penny to my name, wondering where the next meal would come from for my children, and feeling forgotten and alone, when I found over two hundred dollars in twenties blowing along a road, with no clue to the owner or where it might have come from -- a good way from shops or a carpark or anywhere else I could trace an owner.

Thank you for the OP CherryBurton, and to those who have posted.

springydaffs · 04/07/2011 00:30

aw math, what a great story Smile

Monty27 · 04/07/2011 00:43

OP, beautiful thread and beautiful stories, I need my faith atm. If any of you can, a prayer for my son who is not in a good place, please. (Sorry wrong thread I know). I too will pray.

He has anwered my prayers many times, too long to list. Right now I'm struggling.

springydaffs · 07/07/2011 09:14

I will never leave you nor forsake you, assuredly not!

I pray that You will show Monty's son who you really are and how much you love him. I pray that by Your great power, all obstacles will be cleared away and that he will begin to live the life You meant him to live - Your will be done in his life. I pray for Monty that you will encourage *her, that she will keep her eyes on you, knowing you are faithful. This is our prayer in the name of gorgeous Jesus, Amen.

Prayer of agreement guys - powerful.

*apologies if you're a bloke Monty Wink

BeUpStanding · 16/07/2011 13:27

Great thread and wonderful stories.

SpringyDaffs Your post describing how you found God really moved me, please don't ever feel Blush about sharing your story.

Monty I have prayed for your son. I tend to pray more with images than words, and I have asked that your son be held and supported by God's love and that his soul is surrounded with the light.

My finding faith was a series of events, culminating in a physical experience where I was sitting on a rock on a hill in the countryside, meditating. For some unknown reason I decided to do three 'Oms' (surprising because that's not really my style!) and on the third 'Om' this incredible, enormously powerful rush of energy just surged through me - so hard to put it into words!! It was like Niagra Falls the energy was so strong, rushing up from the earth, through my body and connecting with everything. Physically I was convinced I was falling down the hill (the rock was jutting out over a steep drop) and I had to open my eyes to check I was still sitting there. It was quite frightening actually, I was gripping the rock to try and anchor myself and had to keep repeating in my mind to be calm and let it happen, so powerful was the sensation. And then, for a glorious and terrifying moment, I saw and understood everything - like the heavens parted for a split second and Truth was revealed... The understanding that God is Love, that all is one and that we are part of Creator - that God is in every atom, that the point of human existence is to use our freewill to learn and grow in understanding back towards oneness with God... It was extraordinary, and utterly life-changing. Then it all subsided and I was left sitting there, in wonder and amazement.

Blimey!! Sorry if I sound a bit crackers. It's still very difficult to talk about...

So that was 'the big one', that finally and firmly planted the mustard seed of faith that then became like a key to unlocking so many things.

I went to church as a child, lost my faith as teenager and felt angry and abandoned. I was one of those atheists who felt the need to tell anyone who had faith why they were wrong to believe. I thought only 'weak' people needed a belief in God. What utter rubbish! After I told my mum (who has a very deep and personal faith) about my experience she was of course over-joyed, but then warned me - "Now the hard work starts". Blimey was she right!!

After my experience, I had a fairly intense period of insights dropping into my head and mental gymnastics to work through everything- I suppose it could be likened to always being short-sighted and suddenly being given a new pair of glasses. I had to look at and examine everything through this new pair of glasses, including my past. Suddenly I saw God all along... you know like that story of footsteps on the beach and God carrying you when the going gets tough? The times when I had been on my knees sobbing for the help and comfort of God, and all I felt a swirling black nothingness, it was breaking God's heart that I couldn't feel 'her' comfort. But I had to tread that path, and destroy my old notions of 'God', before I could really find faith. That was the way for me.

This experience sitting on the rock was about 2 years ago, and since then I've been trying to find the right spiritual practice for me to develop within, and I haven't found it yet. (To be honest, I don't even like the word 'God' as it reminds me too much of the Old Testament description, but it seemed appropriate to use it here...)

Sometimes I feel really close and connected to 'the universe' / 'God' / 'the great mystery' / the 'Creator'. Other times I feel far far away, lost and a bit confused as to what I'm meant to be doing. Sometimes I pray / meditate and it's like a conversation - I ask and get answers, I feel a presence and am comforted. Other times it's like knocking on a door that won't open.

My turn to do a Blush for such a long post!! Thank you if you've managed to read it all Grin

springydaffs · 16/07/2011 14:35

I suppose in all honesty I don't base my relationship with him on what I feel. I know I had a powerful experience when I first came to know him - as have you BeUp (wow!) - but I don't expect to 'feel' things iyswim. It's what I know and believe that is where it happens ie that he is what He says he is, He means what he says, He doesn't say things for the sake of them. Not one word will return void (ie everything he says is true and straight to the point).

Unlike you BeUp, I love the Old Testament. I suppose I have had a lot of opposition in my life, a lot of enemies, and the OT is very relevant for me. I find the NT difficult - Jesus said some very difficult things. But if you (one) sit with it a bit you realise that what he is saying is in fact quite ordinary, attainable, possible: very clear and lovely. I guess the NT is a lot about doing (behaviour) and that's where I get a bit stuck. A lot (most?) churches are NT-based and maybe that's why we don't see eye to eye. I tend to enjoy God, enjoy who he is, and have an instinctively negative reaction to religion, religious practise - earning your way to God. I know I get on peoples' nerves (but they get on mine!)

That said, the main thrust of the NT is Jesus, what he did, why he did it. Awesome. It's (He's) at the very core of my christian life.

Monty27 · 20/07/2011 00:37

Beup thank you. And your story is beautiful.

Springydaffs hello hope all is well with you.

Things have been ok here, interestingly :)

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