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Catholic Novenas

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LadyFannyofBumStreet · 24/01/2011 23:17

I am a recent convert to Novenas. I was recently granted an impossible favour by St Jude (thank you St Jude!!) after doing a 9 hour Novena to him and and the Sacred Divine Heart.

I urge you all to consider saying a Novena if you are ever in desperate need of a miracle.

Here are some suggestions:

St Cyprian of Antioch: I call upon him as a protector of my business.

St Expedite: So many people write about him that all I can say is, yep he can be all that and a bag of chips if you need something done quickly or if you
have computer issues.

Our Lady of the Miraculous Medal: I got turned onto this manifestation of Mary by a group of three little old ladies in the Catholic gift shop. The next day my Grandmother gave me the medal as a gift, and I have called upon her Novena for myself and others many times.

Our Lady of Good Remedy: Similar to the above. Another group of little old
Catholic Ladies swore by her power. I am just now getting aquainted and like the cut of her gib. Extra good at freeing people from situations that keep them captive.

St Michael: A lot of people call on Michael of course for protection. I have also successfully been healed of agonising pain in minutes by Him.

St Homobonus: Useful for business.

St Jude: Helped me out of a situation where I really just had no idea what
to do next. Strong presence as well, that flame on his head is no joke.

Infant of Prague: Wonderful for when you need a quick financial resolution.

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tomhardyismydh · 01/02/2011 19:30

oxo cube in the catholic terms novenas are devotion to the saints.

however even though I am a catholic I do belive faith is personal so if op belives then who is anyonelse to mock her on this, is faith in anything not a personal choice, belife and act? some people belive in asking the universe will grant who are we to question what they belive, even tho it may not be our personal belife. she may have faith in the saints hence her novenas but in my eyes she does not need to belive the god or higher power that is conventionaly correct in others eyes.

bamboostalks · 01/02/2011 19:31

oxocube

You are spot on, perfect description. You sure you're not a Catholic?

BLB

I am certainly not being nasty and haven't dragged anything across the boards, we are posting on exactly the same topic in two places. You really have had a sense of humour failure.

tomhardyismydh · 01/02/2011 19:37

bamboo oxo maybe spot on for you and her but obviously not for op. is it not her free choice to practice her faith.

bamboostalks · 01/02/2011 19:59

Of course, no issues with that all. Good Luck to her!

BuzzLightBeer · 01/02/2011 20:05

I don't think its funny. And linking to another topic and posting hey folks lets go laugh at this is nasty. My sense of humour is just fine, but if you think that makes for a good joke, yours is in the crapper.

tomhardyismydh · 01/02/2011 20:39

buzz can I ask where you brought up in a catholic family?

bamboostalks · 01/02/2011 20:43

BLB

Get over yourself.

BuzzLightBeer · 01/02/2011 20:46

yes i was.

@bamboo..how about you go back to the other thread and see how it went down like a lead balloon. Don't pretend you don't know it was faux pas.

tomhardyismydh · 01/02/2011 20:48

and i do sincerily appologise for having your post deleted the other day, the second thread was not a jibe at you.

I only ask because im intersted in now why you are an athiest, if you dont mind me asking that too.

BuzzLightBeer · 01/02/2011 20:58

thats ok, no hard feelings.

My mother was catholic and my dad was protestant. Neither of them really practiced until us kids went to Catholic school and by then it was more another reason for them to argue than anything else. But we went to a strict catholic school and even catholic FE college. But along the way I got into very left wing politics and that doesn't really fit, so it wasn't much of a leap into atheism.

tomhardyismydh · 01/02/2011 21:07

oh ok I understand. similar set to me catholic mum, dad only knows what he belived I remember him telling me god was an astronaught one time, I think he was influenced by scientology, was quite and abusive relationship and I often wondered why my mum had such a strong faith as her life with him was pretty shit.

I didnt realy give my faith much treagrd untill I had my own DC and I have gone between questioning to beliving my own take.

I have never had a true converstaion with someone who challanges that actually understands my upbringing or faith only some friends who dont belive and have never had a religious upbringing but mock. is interesting to have a dialogue with someone who does have some experince.

Iv only recently found the philosophy thraeds on mn and have lurcked but not posted as it seems very black and white from both spectrums, and I dont really fit in with that, hence some people find me hypocrtical. I think its my faith that is stronger than my actual bible interpritation as I do see the problems with modern life interpretation.

BuzzLightBeer · 01/02/2011 21:19

I know what you mean. People do tend to assume a lot don't they? I have spent the last few years studying philosophy as a minor for my degree as well, which sometimes helps, but mostly hinders.
Atheism wasn't much of a leap for me. I don't remember ever having any belief, I distinctly recall even as a young child the feeling of going through the motions with regard to church and school.

tomhardyismydh · 01/02/2011 21:30

as a small child I did belive, was very fairytail like then, but as I got older and questioned it was a struggle then didnt give it a second thought again untill I was in my late 20's and even then I think it was again going through the motions. but now have a faith that is true to me. I do send my dd to a catholic school, it is the same one I went too and that decission was more that I thought It was an appropriate grounding and gives an educted ability to question if that proves to be her fete. Im only now exploring my own true belife in the catholic teachings.

As I said up thread I do belive its personal and if an athiest can pray to saints or place power in the universe so beit.

are you studying philosophy now. I also belive in an admittadly uneducated way that philosophy does stem from theology and must work hand in hand.

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LadyFannyofBumStreet · 01/02/2011 21:32

Oxocube,

Please do not insult millions of Catholics who pray Novenas by calling them ?strange?. I defined a spell as being an incantation (so please don?t be redundant by saying spells AND incantations). What and who is this master of deception? Satan?

Give me strength!

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LadyFannyofBumStreet · 01/02/2011 21:36

Tomhardysmith,

I did not post these Novenas as a joke. They are genuinely used for the above and many other purposes. The so called ?Christians? who have laughed, or mocked or verbally insulted me have their reasons for doing so. I don?t mind, because as a Pagan, it reinforces what I strongly believe Christianity to be; a religion that cultivates and encourages hateful behaviour.

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LadyFannyofBumStreet · 01/02/2011 21:39

Shineon,

If I am 'bonkers', then so are the millions of people who say Novenas, or attend Mass in churches named after their beloved Saints, believe in Saints, or have erected churches and shrines in their honour. It is a serious illusion to imagine that just because you don?t understand something, you have the right to be dismissive of it.

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BuzzLightBeer · 01/02/2011 21:39

Yes last year I did religious philosophy (lots of Augustine and Aquinas), before that was philosophy of ethics. Now its Phil of language and mind.
A lot of philosophy is theological in nature, but a good chunk of it really necessitates leaving it at the door.
As a logical and scientific person I have trouble understanding a lot of other peoples faith, but as I get older and know more people that I like and admire who are religious, I can admire it in others. Its not for me, never will be. I do reserve my distrust and distaste though for the structures, politics and social aspect of relgion (as evidenced in that thread you mention) .

Unfortunately my children also go to Catholic school but that is because it is the only school here, and theres no choice. I teach them to respect the beliefs of the school but not to join in and I teach a different way at home.

ninah · 01/02/2011 21:41

so what do you actually say?

tomhardyismydh · 01/02/2011 21:44

Lady Iam a christion but also belive that if you belive these to work for you reagardless of what you call your self then its all good in my opinion. I dare say many of these christians even know what the true meaning of novena is as some have thought them to be prayers to god and not devotions to the saints. I do belive that you do need need to belive in god to make devotions to saints. these people where good in life with or without canonization and so why should the catholic church make claim to them only.

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LadyFannyofBumStreet · 01/02/2011 21:45

@ Oxocube

oxocube Tue 01-Feb-11 18:45:18

Okay, lets start again! Catholic novenas are prayers to the Saints with certain saints having specific powers. Is this correct?*

That is correct

I'm obviously not Catholic as I know very little about this but what I do have dificulty with is the OP's insistence that you don't have to have any faith for them to work.

No you do not.

The OP says she is not a Christian yet I presume she is a Catholic to pray to the Virgin Mary in the first place.

*I am not a Christian by any stretch of the imagination, and I don?t have to be one to pray to the Virgin Mary. This would make much more sense if you knew the origins of Virgin Mary

Is there such a thing as a Non-Christian Catholic? I also find the assertion that anyone can say these prayers and they will work, even though you may have no faith in God or in Jesus, extremely bizarre. This, in my opinion, is the same as casting a spell, or looking to tarot cards or asking a fortune teller for a lucky charm.

You are ofcourse welcome to your opinion (which I also find to be quite bizzare in its insistence that simply because it does not ring true with you, then it must be false.

To me, prayer involves a relationship: it is a two way communication with a God who listens and hears us but expects us to try to live a Christ-like life in return. Maybe other Catholics who use these Novenas can shed some light on this?

Again, that is what your mind has come to accept, and if it works for you, then so be it. The fact remains that I know Pagans who incorporate Psalms, Novenas and other ?Christian? prayers in their pagan worship, and whatever they ask for, they get.

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tomhardyismydh · 01/02/2011 21:47

buz I respect your attitude as do I respect the Ops. I have read alot about lutherism but dont have a great understanding, had I been living in america I belive this may have been my chosen path.

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LadyFannyofBumStreet · 01/02/2011 21:48

Bamboostalks,

May I have the link to the thread where you have linked this post. Thanks.

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ninah · 01/02/2011 21:50

so what do you actually say??! for nine hours?

tomhardyismydh · 01/02/2011 21:50

op search bamboostalks name in advanced search and link it here if she does not.

BuzzLightBeer · 01/02/2011 21:51

here you go

I can even do linkies.

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