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Disappearance of ‘of’

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Seymour5 · 20/06/2025 06:43

Quite a few times recently I’ve heard and read someone has gone ‘out the house’. I’ve always gone ‘out of the house’.

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Nodlikeyouwerelistening · 20/06/2025 13:51

They’ve had to borrow the “of” to fill their contraction deficit. “I could/should/would of done….” 🤦‍♀️

SixteenClovesOfGarlic · 20/06/2025 13:51

The ofs have all gone after the words should, could and would.

AspiringChatBot · 20/06/2025 13:52

In American English, I think "off of" and "off" are about equally used and acceptable. Look out the window! I looked out of the upstairs window. He took the offer off the table. Please take your shoes off of the table!

No reasonable person would say "go toilet" or "go Tenerife", though.

Seymour5 · 20/06/2025 15:23

@Nodlikeyouwerelistening & @SixteenClovesOfGarlic You’re right! 😄

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thecatneuterer · 20/06/2025 16:07

Bluevelvetsofa · 20/06/2025 08:50

So is ‘needs gone’

That doesn't bother me so much as I'm aware it's regional (Irish?). But I can't manage to apply the same logic to haitch - which I also understand is Irish - but which grates on me so badly.

Currently listening to an audio book narrated by the Irish writer and, unfortunately, AD haitch D is very frequently referenced, also the N haitch S. My blood pressure is suffering.

Greenfees · 21/06/2025 00:49

@thecatneuterer
That’s a bit silly. The book is literally being narrated in the voice of the author.
Haitch is the standard pronunciation in Ireland (ROI), the one taught in schools. It’s not a mispronunciation there. Ireland isn’t a region of the UK anyway so the pronunciations or expressions used there shouldn’t be described as regional. You probably wouldn’t describe an American English expression as regional, you’d say it was American. However, you do mention the NHS being said a lot in your audiobook, so perhaps the writer is in Northern Ireland?

I thought ‘needs gone’ was Scottish. Maybe it’s used in Northern Ireland and parts of Ireland too though, I’m not sure.

Here4thechocs · 21/06/2025 18:59

Seymour5 · 20/06/2025 06:43

Quite a few times recently I’ve heard and read someone has gone ‘out the house’. I’ve always gone ‘out of the house’.

My daughter tells me how much her teacher detests hearing this. “ I’m going toilet “. She ignores them until they correct themselves.
Love her. 😄

RaraRachael · 21/06/2025 19:18

Our local café is always posting pictures of items "Just out the oven"

On the other hand we get "He's not that good OF a player". Totally unnecessary ' is this an Americanism?

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