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'Was stood'

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9622a · 27/05/2025 11:26

Reading news reports of the terrible events in Liverpool, I can't help but notice multiple uses of, 'was stood', instead of 'was standing'.

This isn't the average member of the public, in shock, being quoted. It's BBC journalists explaining Steve Rotherham was in the vicinity, or they saw things for themselves on the scene.

It's their job to report correctly and yet they don't routinely write accurately.

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alexdgr8 · 27/05/2025 11:30

That is correct usage.
It is a variant that is the normal usage in the East Midlands and North. Probably elsewhere too.
With so many southerners having gone to university in those areas it has become prevalent in the South also.

Theimpossiblegirl · 27/05/2025 11:31

I think this is distasteful in light of what has happened and the news reports that you are referring to. There's time to be a pedant but this really is not it.

sparklychair · 27/05/2025 11:35

I often say that myself... I looked it up, some say it is a dialectical form but I thought this explanation was reasonable:
"This is a perfectly acceptable construction when used as a reflexive verb with the action preposition and reflexive pronoun implicit.

I stood myself >>
I was stood by myself* >>
I was stood

*In the sense ‘I stood me’ - ‘Myself stood me' "

9622a · 27/05/2025 11:35

alexdgr8 · 27/05/2025 11:30

That is correct usage.
It is a variant that is the normal usage in the East Midlands and North. Probably elsewhere too.
With so many southerners having gone to university in those areas it has become prevalent in the South also.

It's not standard English to say you were sang, swam, danced, shouted, or stood. You either stood there or you were standing there.

Perhaps officers are still standing there. They weren't stood or sat.

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9622a · 27/05/2025 11:36

sparklychair · 27/05/2025 11:35

I often say that myself... I looked it up, some say it is a dialectical form but I thought this explanation was reasonable:
"This is a perfectly acceptable construction when used as a reflexive verb with the action preposition and reflexive pronoun implicit.

I stood myself >>
I was stood by myself* >>
I was stood

*In the sense ‘I stood me’ - ‘Myself stood me' "

Myself stood me makes absolutely no sense at all.

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9622a · 27/05/2025 11:38

Theimpossiblegirl · 27/05/2025 11:31

I think this is distasteful in light of what has happened and the news reports that you are referring to. There's time to be a pedant but this really is not it.

It's prevalent in lots of reporting, but particularly noticeable based on the focus on positions. This isn't about the crime, it's about the national media and the quality of writing.

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zenas · 27/05/2025 11:40

I know immediately when someone writes or states "I was sat there" or "I was stood there" that the person is English. I can't say if it is grammatically correct or not as I'm not linguist, but most people in other English speaking countries would say "I was sitting there" or "I was standing there". In my experience....

Sparticle · 27/05/2025 11:46

This is one of my DH’s pet peeves as his DM (grammar school teacher 50 years ago) used to drum it into him. So I agree with you.

Saying that, I’m also not sure you needed to link it to what’s happened in Liverpool. You could have just said you’d noticed it recently, even from professional journalists?

KakulasSister · 27/05/2025 11:49

alexdgr8 · 27/05/2025 11:30

That is correct usage.
It is a variant that is the normal usage in the East Midlands and North. Probably elsewhere too.
With so many southerners having gone to university in those areas it has become prevalent in the South also.

It's not correct unless someone actually put you there!

KakulasSister · 27/05/2025 11:51

sparklychair · 27/05/2025 11:35

I often say that myself... I looked it up, some say it is a dialectical form but I thought this explanation was reasonable:
"This is a perfectly acceptable construction when used as a reflexive verb with the action preposition and reflexive pronoun implicit.

I stood myself >>
I was stood by myself* >>
I was stood

*In the sense ‘I stood me’ - ‘Myself stood me' "

No one should EVER say "I was stood by myself"

9622a · 27/05/2025 11:58

Sparticle · 27/05/2025 11:46

This is one of my DH’s pet peeves as his DM (grammar school teacher 50 years ago) used to drum it into him. So I agree with you.

Saying that, I’m also not sure you needed to link it to what’s happened in Liverpool. You could have just said you’d noticed it recently, even from professional journalists?

I'm linking the grammar issue to the news story because that's what I was reading, as well as the tens of thousands of other people apparently still viewing the page.

It's high profile, obviously emotive, and full of repeated non-standard language usage, when it should be a trusted source.

I obviously don't think it's more important than the people involved, but it does say something generally about the calibre of writers involving themselves for us to rely on.These mistakes are from the people chosen to report for the BBC on this (not people speaking in dialect off the cuff).

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9622a · 27/05/2025 12:01

KakulasSister · 27/05/2025 11:49

It's not correct unless someone actually put you there!

Exactly. Just like a toddler might be 'sat' in their high chair or in front of the TV, by someone who lifts them up and puts them down.

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Words · 27/05/2025 12:13

BBC's younger presenters make this mistake with increasing frequency.

I stood watching the parade for hours.

I was standing in a side street when the tragedy occurred.

I was stood is never correct. It's a conflation of the past perfect and past imperfect tenses.

TENSsion · 27/05/2025 12:14

I’ve seen
“was sat” written in novels recently.

I hate it.

upinaballoon · 27/05/2025 14:13

9622a · 27/05/2025 11:36

Myself stood me makes absolutely no sense at all.

'Myself stood me' makes me feel quite poorly.

piscofrisco · 27/05/2025 14:21

I hate it. Drives me mad. It doesn’t read or sound right to me. I’ve read that both (‘I was standing’ and ‘I was stood’ ) are correct and interchangeable grammatically, but I don’t accept it!

ThunderThighs123 · 28/05/2025 07:18

How about 'I was stood standing '?!

upinaballoon · 29/05/2025 10:26

Words · 27/05/2025 12:13

BBC's younger presenters make this mistake with increasing frequency.

I stood watching the parade for hours.

I was standing in a side street when the tragedy occurred.

I was stood is never correct. It's a conflation of the past perfect and past imperfect tenses.

MP being interviewed on TV this morning - "While I've been stood here......."

DancingFerret · 29/05/2025 10:45

Overheard recently, "We was sat at the back..."

The first two words are bad enough.🙄

9622a · 29/05/2025 10:54

upinaballoon · 29/05/2025 10:26

MP being interviewed on TV this morning - "While I've been stood here......."

It's clearly everywhere!

Do they think it's correct (because to sit or stand implies being still, so can't be actively happening - maybe?) or do they think the alternative is too formal and they need to tone it down?

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zenas · 29/05/2025 14:01

Who stood or sat these people there?

Raquelos · 29/05/2025 14:12

Theimpossiblegirl · 27/05/2025 11:31

I think this is distasteful in light of what has happened and the news reports that you are referring to. There's time to be a pedant but this really is not it.

I think that if you imagine that pedantry can be switched on and off as the (very mild in this case) inappropriateness of a situation dictates, then you haven't really understood the nature of being a pedant. Think of it as an affliction and find some sympathy in your stony, cold heart for all of us who suffer bravely through. 😉

BeNiceWhenItsFinished · 29/05/2025 14:20

When journalists are reporting verbatim, they report exactly what was said. Likewise if people are interviewed on camera.

9622a · 29/05/2025 14:24

BeNiceWhenItsFinished · 29/05/2025 14:20

When journalists are reporting verbatim, they report exactly what was said. Likewise if people are interviewed on camera.

But sometimes it's their own insightful comments.

'Was stood'
'Was stood'
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sandv · 29/05/2025 14:27

Ooh it makes me cringe. I’m an ex-teacher and the amount of actual qualified adults who I’ve heard say to children, ‘Let’s see who’s sat nicely’… hurts my ears!

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