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I heard someone actually say "would of"

73 replies

WinterKitchen · 20/04/2025 16:28

I thought people wrote it because they say "would've" but aren't very good at spelling. I never thought people actually said it but it seems they do.

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Venalopolos · 20/07/2025 10:01

Pedant5corner · 18/07/2025 15:48

@Ddakji , Even if you say 'Of course'?

Definitely uv course.

I know it’s would’ve, I would always write would’ve but having just said a few sentences there I times when I say it and it sounds indistinguishable from would of. Mostly where u is an easier vowel to form than schwa, so it’s just laziness and accent I think.

thecatneuterer · 20/07/2025 10:07

Itsnottheheatitsthehumidity · 18/07/2025 16:46

Quite common to say would of in London and Southern England. I hear it a lot in my public facing job. It annoys me too but it's a regional saying.

Edited

It's not regional. It's just incorrect/ill-educated from everywhere.

Jumpthewaves · 20/07/2025 10:10

Ddakji · 20/07/2025 09:52

If you heard me speak you would hear me pronounce “of” and “ve” exactly the same. So you would wrongly think that I’m saying “would of”, for example.

The only way you can know is seeing it written down.

Precisely.

BellissimoGecko · 20/07/2025 15:02

CaptainMyCaptain · 20/07/2025 09:13

It's not a regional accent it's the wrong words. It makes no grammatical sense.

‘Of’ sounds like ‘have’ in some accents. 🤷🏼‍♀️

TaborlinTheGreat · 20/07/2025 15:05

BellissimoGecko · 20/07/2025 15:02

‘Of’ sounds like ‘have’ in some accents. 🤷🏼‍♀️

Really?! Surely it's more that when speaking fairly quickly, 'Would of' sounds pretty much exactly the same as 'Would've' (but not 'would have')?

Ddakji · 20/07/2025 17:04

TaborlinTheGreat · 20/07/2025 15:05

Really?! Surely it's more that when speaking fairly quickly, 'Would of' sounds pretty much exactly the same as 'Would've' (but not 'would have')?

But most people don’t say “would have” as two distinct words. Hence would’ve. But yes. You’re right, would of and would’ve sound the same, to me at any rate.

thecatneuterer · 20/07/2025 17:07

Generally I agree, but I also often hear the "of" clearly and separately enunciated.

blacksax · 20/07/2025 17:09

BabyCatFace · 18/07/2025 17:40

Surely it's obvious that people think it's would of? That's why they write it would of, not would have. Why wouldn't people say would of out loud if that's what they think the phrase is?

Edited

Because they're stupid?

They would HAVE been taught the correct way in primary school.

BrickBiscuit · 20/07/2025 22:02

WinterKitchen · 20/04/2025 16:28

I thought people wrote it because they say "would've" but aren't very good at spelling. I never thought people actually said it but it seems they do.

Addressing the OP, perhaps people write it nowadays (and it's really common) because they CAN spell, but aren't very good at grammar. So they've heard 'of', or misheard ' 've', and think it correct to write 'of'. In turn, people then see 'of' instead of 'have' written so often they think it's correct so they say it. The vicious circle perpetuates the mistake.

BrickBiscuit · 20/07/2025 22:45

BrickBiscuit · 20/07/2025 08:01

From bad to worse. A line from another thread today (about building materials) reads: "The mesh also seems to of stretched and snapped in places"

And another, later the same day: "... he'll of been embarrassed about not being able to swim ..."

upinaballoon · 21/07/2025 15:28

BrickBiscuit · 20/07/2025 22:02

Addressing the OP, perhaps people write it nowadays (and it's really common) because they CAN spell, but aren't very good at grammar. So they've heard 'of', or misheard ' 've', and think it correct to write 'of'. In turn, people then see 'of' instead of 'have' written so often they think it's correct so they say it. The vicious circle perpetuates the mistake.

Yes.

BrickBiscuit · 22/07/2025 14:16

upinaballoon · 21/07/2025 15:28

Yes.

I have just read about 'eye dialect’, a term new to me. Slade song titles and tabloid headlines contain examples. I sincerely hope this won’t be a route to ‘of’ being accepted as some form of correct speech. It is already in the dictionary on the basis of usage, but for now thankfully labelled incorrect.

Pedant5corner · 22/07/2025 14:35

CornedBeef451 · 20/07/2025 08:35

DH both says and writes would of. If I had noticed before we got married I WOULD HAVE called it off.

I once snapped and shouted (not farted), would have, could have, should have, at him but it was no use. I have made sure the DCs say and write it correctly.

LTB

upinaballoon · 22/07/2025 15:11

What does LTB mean as well as Long Term Benefits?

Pedant5corner · 22/07/2025 15:17

Leave the bastard

Growlybear83 · 22/07/2025 15:26

blacksax · 20/07/2025 17:09

Because they're stupid?

They would HAVE been taught the correct way in primary school.

I have to disagree with this. My daughter was very upset when she came home from school one day during Year 2z. She showed me a piece of work in her English book where she had written ‘I would have…’ - the class teacher had crossed this out and written ‘I would have…’. in green pen.

humblebea · 22/07/2025 15:35

It’s definitely an accent thing where I am.

Plantladylover · 22/07/2025 15:37

It's an accent thing ime. People with northern accents say would've quickly. Rather than would have. most know it's not 'would of'

Growlybear83 · 22/07/2025 16:19

Growlybear83 · 22/07/2025 15:26

I have to disagree with this. My daughter was very upset when she came home from school one day during Year 2z. She showed me a piece of work in her English book where she had written ‘I would have…’ - the class teacher had crossed this out and written ‘I would have…’. in green pen.

The auto corrrect clearly has a better command of English than my daughter’s teacher.. I tried repeatedly above to say that the teacher corrected my daughter’s work to read ‘ I would OF ‘ from ‘would have’, but autocorrect kept changing it.

Pedant5corner · 22/07/2025 16:22

most know it's not 'would of' They should know but they might not.

thecatneuterer · 22/07/2025 16:57

Growlybear83 · 22/07/2025 16:19

The auto corrrect clearly has a better command of English than my daughter’s teacher.. I tried repeatedly above to say that the teacher corrected my daughter’s work to read ‘ I would OF ‘ from ‘would have’, but autocorrect kept changing it.

Edited

How shocking! I would have had to take it up with the teacher

TaborlinTheGreat · 22/07/2025 17:01

Growlybear83 · 22/07/2025 16:19

The auto corrrect clearly has a better command of English than my daughter’s teacher.. I tried repeatedly above to say that the teacher corrected my daughter’s work to read ‘ I would OF ‘ from ‘would have’, but autocorrect kept changing it.

Edited

Shock The teacher corrected it to 'would of'?! Jeez, that's depressing. It's one thing if a secondary school physics teacher's spelling and grammar aren't impeccable, but a primary school teacher who's responsible for teaching SPaG....?

Growlybear83 · 22/07/2025 17:54

@thecatneuterer@TaborlinTheGreat. Yes it was shocking and it was the final straw. My daughter had had the same teacher for two years, and there were problems from the outset. This happened right at the end of the summer term, and I saw the Headteacher the next day to explain why I was moving her to another school.

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