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"I'm ASD" "My son is SEN"

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ArtTheClownIsNotAMime · 31/03/2025 11:09

This is everywhere on MN and irritates me so much. You're autism spectrum disorder are you? And your son is special educational needs?

When did "have/has" go out of fashion?

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Penzancepirate · 27/08/2025 11:47

Contkabia · 31/03/2025 15:39

“He’s/she’s special needs” is by far the worst. Makes me cringe.

Feel very sorry for those cared for by people who refer to them this way.

Sorry, I realise this is an old comment, but surely he’s/she’s is an abbreviation of he/she has in this instance, not he/she is.

Penzancepirate · 27/08/2025 11:47

Contkabia · 31/03/2025 15:39

“He’s/she’s special needs” is by far the worst. Makes me cringe.

Feel very sorry for those cared for by people who refer to them this way.

Posted twice, sorry.

TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne · 27/08/2025 11:49

ArtTheClownIsNotAMime · 31/03/2025 12:58

This. I put the thread in Pedants' Corner because it's a question of grammar, not ideology.

"I'm autistic" and "I have autism" are fine, grammatically, and it's up to the person to decide which they use. "I'm autism spectrum disorder" makes no sense at all.

You're quite right and I fully agree.

TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne · 27/08/2025 11:50

Penzancepirate · 27/08/2025 11:47

Sorry, I realise this is an old comment, but surely he’s/she’s is an abbreviation of he/she has in this instance, not he/she is.

I don't think it is.

"He's" is a contraction of "he is", not "he has".

Penzancepirate · 27/08/2025 12:29

TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne · 27/08/2025 11:50

I don't think it is.

"He's" is a contraction of "he is", not "he has".

I’m not a expert but sometimes ‘he’s’ is used as a contraction for ‘he has’ too.

I’m not sure if it’s correct when ‘has’ is the main verb, however, rather than used in a construction like ‘He’s eaten his dinner’, where it’s fine I think 🤔

I do think it’s used colloquially in the former sense though. I’ve certainly heard people say things like ‘He’s a new car’ even if that’s not correct, strictly speaking.

Slimtoddy · 27/08/2025 12:45

Question - Do you know what is meant when someone says 'my son is ASD'?

Observation - my son who has a diagnosis of ASD can be quite pedantic about stuff.

FrogFrogFrog · 27/08/2025 12:53

I'm autistic and as much of a pedant as anyone, but I can't get too excited about this. I think it's mostly just a shorthand that you see online, rather than a real-life thing. If people want to describe themselves that way, fine. And in fact, I've described myself as AuDHD before, because it's faster than typing, 'I'm autistic and have ADHD'.

That's the ADHD part of me, wanting a snappy shortcut. 😁

upinaballoon · 27/08/2025 17:29

Penzancepirate · 27/08/2025 12:29

I’m not a expert but sometimes ‘he’s’ is used as a contraction for ‘he has’ too.

I’m not sure if it’s correct when ‘has’ is the main verb, however, rather than used in a construction like ‘He’s eaten his dinner’, where it’s fine I think 🤔

I do think it’s used colloquially in the former sense though. I’ve certainly heard people say things like ‘He’s a new car’ even if that’s not correct, strictly speaking.

Strictly speaking, I think 'He's a new car' is correct when it means that he has a new car and I think it is something one might hear more in one part of the country than another, but maybe not.
'And guess what else - he's a new car'. Is it possible that I'd be more likely to hear that in the NW of England than the SE?

Edit to say that if I'd ever heard a person say 'He's a new car' I would have expected it to come from someone who came from Cumberland or Westmoreland. I was thinking about people I've known, and their ways of speaking.

ValleyClouds · 27/08/2025 17:47

Disabled also and HATE HATE HATE “my child IS SEN” it really pisses me off

samarrange · 27/08/2025 19:04

My pet peeve here is "I'm/she's a bit OCD, ha ha" meaning "showing concern for precision neatness, perhaps slightly more than most people". As well as the linguistic aspect of a person not being a disorder, there is the fact that OCD is not a spectrum with most of us at the 1% end, and the 5% level being somehow amusing. Actual OCD is a debilitating condition characterised by frequent intrusive thoughts and it does a disservice to people with it to use the term for fun. (I have no first- or second-hand experience of OCD, but I have worked with advocacy groups and this is something that really pisses them off.)

Funnywonder · 27/08/2025 22:27

samarrange · 27/08/2025 19:04

My pet peeve here is "I'm/she's a bit OCD, ha ha" meaning "showing concern for precision neatness, perhaps slightly more than most people". As well as the linguistic aspect of a person not being a disorder, there is the fact that OCD is not a spectrum with most of us at the 1% end, and the 5% level being somehow amusing. Actual OCD is a debilitating condition characterised by frequent intrusive thoughts and it does a disservice to people with it to use the term for fun. (I have no first- or second-hand experience of OCD, but I have worked with advocacy groups and this is something that really pisses them off.)

I’m right there with you on that one. Both grammatically and in terms of definition. No other mental illness is claimed by so many, as if it’s just a little thing. A quirk. ‘Oh there I go again with my matching cushions…’ And never was any other illness the butt of so many jokes. I have a child who can barely leave his bedroom and has been out of school for months. It has been a living nightmare. I also had it as a teenager. I always appreciate the few people who get it.

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