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There are three Katys in the class

93 replies

DandelionDahlia · 02/01/2025 16:13

Would anyone be able to tell me if this is grammatically correct?

Or should it be "three Katies"?

They all spell their name Katy.

OP posts:
Thewalrusandthecarpenter · 02/01/2025 18:54

I think "three Katys" looks fine and makes it very clear that all spell their name "Katy".

IbizaToTheNorfolkBroads · 02/01/2025 18:56

What would you do if the name didn't end in Y or S? Do that.

There are several Katys, a couple of Katies and some Chrises in the class.

PokerFriedDips · 02/01/2025 19:03

soupfiend · 02/01/2025 17:55

or Jesi?

No. Jesus isn't a latin word so doesn't pluralise with an i - like octopuses.

BananaSpanner · 02/01/2025 19:08

Im so intrigued as to what age group and area has a class of 3 Katys (all spelled the same way) in 2024. OP are you writing a novel set in the 1980s and 90s?

Riapia · 02/01/2025 19:18

If there were three girls named Mary there wouldn’t be three Marie’s.

Baggingarea · 02/01/2025 19:42

MathsFiend · 02/01/2025 16:55

Katys is correct. But PP is wrong to add an apostrophe, you wouldn't add an apostrophe to pluralise the name.

Hard agree. This suggestion made me shudder. You never need an apostrophe with plural names unless it is posessive - even surnames despite popular belief.

DandelionDahlia · 02/01/2025 20:36

BananaSpanner · 02/01/2025 19:08

Im so intrigued as to what age group and area has a class of 3 Katys (all spelled the same way) in 2024. OP are you writing a novel set in the 1980s and 90s?

This is a fair point.

There WERE three Katys in the class, back in the day (c1988)

A lovely name. Katie also nice.

OP posts:
BellissimoGecko · 02/01/2025 21:07

Yes, @stclair

GretchenWienersHair · 02/01/2025 21:22

Riapia · 02/01/2025 19:18

If there were three girls named Mary there wouldn’t be three Marie’s.

Best explanation ever. This has removed all shadows of doubt 😄

niadainud · 02/01/2025 21:25

JetskiSkyJumper · 02/01/2025 16:55

I'd write Katys' it's probably wrong though!

What would the purpose of the apostrophe be?

MajorCarolDanvers · 02/01/2025 21:31

Katie is not the plural version of Katy. It’s a different name.

three Katys

NeverEverOhNo · 02/01/2025 21:32

What about if there were 3 James?

GretchenWienersHair · 02/01/2025 22:26

NeverEverOhNo · 02/01/2025 21:32

What about if there were 3 James?

Jameses? Then I’d be pronouncing it like the pharaoh Ramesses but with a J.

Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr · 02/01/2025 22:31

Baggingarea · 02/01/2025 19:42

Hard agree. This suggestion made me shudder. You never need an apostrophe with plural names unless it is posessive - even surnames despite popular belief.

The PP's suggestion to add an apostrophe was clearly tongue-in-cheek! That's why she put a winky face with it 🤦🏻‍♀️

SensibleSigma · 02/01/2025 22:38

no-one has suggested three ‘Katy’s

Would that work?

I’m worrying about ‘Cris’, too. More than one and you end up with Crises.

Baggingarea · 03/01/2025 05:46

Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr · 02/01/2025 22:31

The PP's suggestion to add an apostrophe was clearly tongue-in-cheek! That's why she put a winky face with it 🤦🏻‍♀️

Oh lol I'm a dick

butterpuffed · 04/01/2025 23:21

I'm hoping never to marry anyone with the surname 'Newman' as I couldn't handle people calling us the Newmen. 🙃

Printedword · 04/01/2025 23:27

I refer you to the famous children's book of my childhood 'What Katy Did Next' - no one thought it was pronounced catty. Simply an alternative spelling like Kirstie or Kirsty

Printedword · 04/01/2025 23:28

butterpuffed · 04/01/2025 23:21

I'm hoping never to marry anyone with the surname 'Newman' as I couldn't handle people calling us the Newmen. 🙃

I grew up in a short street opposite the Newman family who were two doors down from the Newhams

TheDowagerCountessofPembroke · 04/01/2025 23:29

butterpuffed · 04/01/2025 23:21

I'm hoping never to marry anyone with the surname 'Newman' as I couldn't handle people calling us the Newmen. 🙃

There is a similar problem when referring to more than one Batman or Superman.

The three Batmen posed for a photograph.
The three Batmans posed for a photograph.

APushbikeNamedReluctance · 04/01/2025 23:49

Proper nouns add an s (es where it ends in sibilance sound). "I know three Felixes and two Bettys." First names no difference to surnames. Such as "the Browns" or "the Marches".

JessicafelloffTheKnappett · 04/01/2025 23:54

TheDowagerCountessofPembroke · 04/01/2025 23:29

There is a similar problem when referring to more than one Batman or Superman.

The three Batmen posed for a photograph.
The three Batmans posed for a photograph.

I guess it depends if they're a man who's a bat or a person called Batman.
Three Batmans posed...
Three batmen posed....

Am I overthinking .........

GretchenWienersHair · 05/01/2025 09:43

JessicafelloffTheKnappett · 04/01/2025 23:54

I guess it depends if they're a man who's a bat or a person called Batman.
Three Batmans posed...
Three batmen posed....

Am I overthinking .........

I’m with you on that one!

upinaballoon · 05/01/2025 18:31

Printedword · 04/01/2025 23:27

I refer you to the famous children's book of my childhood 'What Katy Did Next' - no one thought it was pronounced catty. Simply an alternative spelling like Kirstie or Kirsty

'What Katy Did', 'What Katy Did At School' and 'What Katy Did Next' amounts to three Katys, I suppose, but it was only one Katy, after all.

I loved reading those when I was young. Thank you for the reminder.

TeenToTwenties · 05/01/2025 18:35

The obvious thing would be to reword. There were 3 children named Katy in the class ...

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