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Free REIN! Not reign. BEAR with me not bare.

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heldinadream · 13/05/2024 11:05

The number of times I want to write the above on a thread is growing and growing, but I bite my tongue and sit on my hands because such comments never bring relief they merely unleash abuse and derision and accusations of grammar Nazism.
Now tell me, should I have capitalised 'Nazi' in this context? I could not decide.
I can take it.

Every time someone says bare with me I imagine them naked. And reign it in or free reign earns them a crown. 👸I am a very visual person as well as a language lover. So I cannot help it, my days are increasingly populated by naked posters and posters that have become royal.
As for chester draws - little Chester, sitting there with his pencils... Grin

Free REIN! Not reign. BEAR with me not bare.
OP posts:
sashh · 28/05/2024 07:08

One that irritated me so much I had to correct the person.

"We are doing this so you will be more readier...".

This was a lecturer who corrected my English to American English. She wasn't American.

@Lovetotravel123 the sat vs sitting thing can be a regional variation. I would never write, "I was sat..." in a formal piece of writing, but if I'm using my Yorkshire accent I might.

I would also mash tea.
Wait while.. - meaning wait until.
Sweets might become spegs or spice.

Fridayfederica · 28/05/2024 08:07

I eye-roll when someone starts a sentence with “so”. I see this often - “So I went to work yesterday” etc. Also on my list is the term “very unique”. Something is either unique or it isn’t, there aren’t various levels of uniqueness. I’d never correct anyone though, just sigh and move on.

MarmiteyCrumpets · 28/05/2024 08:24

heldinadream · 13/05/2024 11:44

It's neither - it's foul swoop. 😂
Someone's going to disagree with me now, I feel it in my bones...

Fell swoop
According to this article it is fell swoop, likely coined by Shakespeare in Macbeth.

One Fell Swoop

One Fell Swoop - DAILY WRITING TIPS

It's quite common for people to use the phrase "one fowl swoop" (or even "one foul swoop") when they want to convey the idea of an event taking place all at

https://www.dailywritingtips.com/one-fell-swoop/#:~:text=In%20fact%20the%20phrase%20does,may%20merely%20have%20popularised%20it.

mamaduckbone · 28/05/2024 08:54

OP, I think you are fighting a loosing battle here...
<ducks and runs>

ColdGirlWinter · 28/05/2024 14:08

crumpet · 27/05/2024 09:11

“Upmost” grinds my gears.

I do think many of these changes are reflective of a general decline in “proper” reading. We spend too much time on our phones - I am guilty of it myself and read far fewer books than I used to. So we don’t see as much properly proofed “good” English in writing. People are therefore relying on what they hear, or someone’s badly written posts/tweets/fanfic etc

But if you have learned it in the first place, it doesn't matter how much time you spend on phones, tablets etc.

DuchessNope · 29/05/2024 12:33

Something is either unique or it isn’t, there aren’t various levels of uniqueness

I don’t agree - I mean say you examined two factory made plates closely enough they won’t be actually be completely identical. There will be tiny imperfections and differences in size and so on. If you want to be a purist about the word unique I think you’d have to accept that basically everything (except perhaps single cells or atoms) is unique. To use the word usefully we do accept that we are talking about something being over a threshold of uniqueness or it being sufficiently unique. The fact there are levels of uniqueness is baked in.

I also wouldn’t correct people saying “something can’t be very unique” in real like, I would just move on. I think I’m allowed to correct you in pedants’ corner though!

edited to add - I wouldn’t use “very unique” by the way as I’m aware that in standard English a native speaker wouldn’t modify unique. I’m just saying that I consider the idea that there are no degrees of uniqueness to be incorrect.

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 29/05/2024 13:01

For me, it is the use of unique/quite unique to describe something that is uncommon or rare that I object to, @DuchessNope - but like you, I wouldn't correct someone in real life.

CloudPop · 29/05/2024 13:02

Misunderstanding the differing between imply and infer. Happens more often that not

CloudPop · 29/05/2024 13:03

Difference - not differing

upinaballoon · 30/05/2024 17:10

sashh · 28/05/2024 07:08

One that irritated me so much I had to correct the person.

"We are doing this so you will be more readier...".

This was a lecturer who corrected my English to American English. She wasn't American.

@Lovetotravel123 the sat vs sitting thing can be a regional variation. I would never write, "I was sat..." in a formal piece of writing, but if I'm using my Yorkshire accent I might.

I would also mash tea.
Wait while.. - meaning wait until.
Sweets might become spegs or spice.

When I went up to live in Leeds for a little while I learned that sweets can be spice, and I had long known that the passage-way between the houses is a ginnell, but I'm not sure how to spell it.
A friend told me that using while in the sense of until is Lincolnshire but maybe it is east. Certainly my Lincolnshire-born great grandfather used it in that way :- "Frank (was) painting (the) bridge while noon." It's all so interesting.

ashiningbeaconinspace · 30/05/2024 17:43

Nonewclothes2024 · 26/05/2024 20:29

The ' my husband and I '
When it should be 'me and my husband '

It's not always I.

Nope, "my husband and me", not the other way round. eg "Please talk to my husband and me about it."

ashiningbeaconinspace · 30/05/2024 17:47

"Decimated" to mean almost wiped out... Decimated means losing one in ten, no more. Drives me mad! (Ex latin scholar)

Fromage · 30/05/2024 18:00

<happy sigh>

I love threads like this.

Generally/genuinely. I've noticed they get mixed up too. Not even by drunk people, slurring.

ShambalaAnna · 30/05/2024 18:01

Good English is a core tenant of any good education system.

abbey44 · 30/05/2024 18:21

ShambalaAnna · 30/05/2024 18:01

Good English is a core tenant of any good education system.

Wouldn’t that be “core tenet”…?

ShambalaAnna · 30/05/2024 18:31

abbey44 · 30/05/2024 18:21

Wouldn’t that be “core tenet”…?

😁

LifeofBrienne · 30/05/2024 18:38

Many of the above, especially ’slither’ for ’sliver’. Also unnecessary ‘of’: “It’s not that big of a deal.”

Spaggybollynese · 30/05/2024 18:38

It’s constant on here! I want to correct it so much!

ShambalaAnna · 30/05/2024 18:43

“More then” instead of “more than” always gets me.

If we’re going for public signage, any shop that has a scrawled notice in pen that uses the word “inconvenience” is more than 50% likely to have a some amazing attempt at spelling that word.

abbey44 · 30/05/2024 18:54

LifeofBrienne · 30/05/2024 18:38

Many of the above, especially ’slither’ for ’sliver’. Also unnecessary ‘of’: “It’s not that big of a deal.”

Oh, this one is so common and it irritates the hell out of me too 😁

Slavica · 30/05/2024 19:38

RiverRed · 13/05/2024 19:47

Capitalising common nouns - e.g. the Hospital, the Doctor, the Police - drives me mad especially as they constantly appear in documents I have to proof-read for work.

I live in a German-speaking country. Enough said.

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