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Pedants' corner

Fazed vs phased

113 replies

LapinR0se · 14/04/2023 17:30

I genuinely think that 90% of people on MN get this wrong and it drives me CRAZY and I want to SCREEEEEAAAAMMMMM when I read it, which seems to be several times a day. I have to sit on my hands so I don’t type “It’s unfazed UNFAZED UNFAZED!!!!”
Seeking refuge here as you all will understand and the others won’t.

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PedantScorner · 13/02/2024 12:30

@dolskarella , I would say the former is less morbid.

dolskarella · 13/02/2024 15:18

PedantScorner · 13/02/2024 12:30

@dolskarella , I would say the former is less morbid.

Fair enough 🤣

Silverbirchtwo · 13/02/2024 15:33

Rainydaysandicecream · 23/06/2023 22:55

the idiomatic use misses the point. Think of a delicious-looking pudding in front of you. You can't prove that it is delicious without tasting it. The proof isn't in the pudding, it's in the tasting.

@PedantScorner
Yes, I understand, but it doesn't need to be spelt out in detail. That’s my whole point. The shorter version has been around for centuries now and has accquired the status of idiom. People know what is meant by the expression.

The proof is 'in' the pudding, implies you have to eat it not just look at it to prove it's good, clearer if you say the proof is in eating the pudding, but we all know (I think) what is meant.

I would say 'people in glass houses', without adding shouldn't throw stones, because we all know what's coming. Or that's 'the pot calling the kettle', without adding black.

PedantScorner · 13/02/2024 19:04

You're in Pedants' Corner, @Silverbirchtwo .

Rainydaysandicecream · 13/02/2024 19:40

Pedants can disagree too.

PedantScorner · 14/02/2024 14:09

@napody , here's an example of the MN use of 'Going against the grain'.
Going against the grain here but I much much much prefer Hero. (in response to 'Would you choose Hero or Marcella [as a name for a baby girl]?')

That says to me that it the poster finds it an anathema to to say she prefers Hero, whereas the poster probably means 'Unlike most posters, I prefer Hero'.

TallulahBetty · 14/02/2024 14:13

I can't stand the dropping of -ed on words.

Pack lunch
I am bias
He is chill
Drop kerb

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

PedantScorner · 14/02/2024 14:19

@TallulahBetty , me neither, but you have made me think of 'drop curb'.

ErrolTheDragon · 14/02/2024 14:29

PedantScorner · 14/02/2024 14:19

@TallulahBetty , me neither, but you have made me think of 'drop curb'.

Leaving the ridiculous 'drop' aside, what did it make you think?

Personally I think 'curb' is a perfectly acceptable and unremarkable alternative to 'kerb'. It's the normal spelling in the US, and it's the older form, more directly linked to the etymology and related meanings.

PedantScorner · 14/02/2024 14:37

Curb as in to curb. I'm aware that curb for kerb is not 'wrong' but I find the use of it somewhat jarring.
Curb appeal to me reads as Put a limit to the appeal.

ErrolTheDragon · 14/02/2024 15:18

I'm not sure I'd come across the term 'kerb appeal'. I'd not sure it'd be misread as 'limit' if used in context.

PedantScorner · 14/02/2024 15:32

"Kerb appeal is how attractive your home looks from the street. Don’t get confused between “kerb” and “curb” (which means restraint)." (from my browser)

upinaballoon · 14/02/2024 21:37

To curb is to restrain. A kerb or curb restrains both the road and the path and stops them from falling into each other.
I live in England and I write 'kerb'. This century I have been in the US and seen the word 'curb', meaning exactly the same thing. I am very happy with both. I have said this before on threads. In the minute book of the local council of this village, in England, round about 1910, the spelling was 'curb'. I was very interested a few years ago, to see that.

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