Fed up of...

[Cam2020]

I'm seeing this fairly frequently, along with 'gotten'. Both make me want to scream. Just needed to type that out here before I do something twatty and respond to someone in a condescending manner.

Old Manchester lullaby:
I'll throw you out of the window
I'll chuck you out of the door
You are my little darling
And I'll trample you into the floor.
That's what I'll do, she said
And that's what she did
Dropped him into the dustbin
And clapped on the lid.)

That’s very dark. Northern lullabies are much grittier than the ones I’m used to down south!

@MindyStClaire

Gottten kills me! Got is an ugly word best avoided, but to use gotten is an abomination!!

Seriously, wtf. I really really don't get this. It's the most boring, normal word frequently used in huge parts of the English speaking world.

I had no idea of the hatred for this standard word until I joined MN. Is it rooted in anit Irish/Scottish sentiments of the past or something?

I dislike 'gotten' too but technically it is not grammatically incorrect. 'Got' is something to be used minimally, that's what most of us were taught at school.

'Gifted' is another one that has crept into common usage; again not incorrect but it grates.

I've seen 'I got gifted' on here :-).

'Got' is something to be used minimally, that's what most of us were taught at school.

Genuinely not trying to be rude, but why? We weren't taught this at all (Irish), to me it's like trying not to use "be" or "go".

I can only speak for England, Mindy and you are certainly not rude at all. Obviously the use of the English language varies from country to country. It's slightly different in Ireland and Scotland, probably Wales and definitely in the USA.

We were definitely taught to avoid using 'got' too much when another word could be used; eg 'I received...", rather than, "I got....", but of course the word is used sometimes.

Cam, 'fed up of...', 'could of', 'would of', 'bored of', all dreadful, plus 'off of'.

I hate ‘gotten’ too. I’ve noticed it a lot on here, along with ‘mad at’ instead of ‘angry with’ from UK posters.

I also hate the constant use of ‘needs done’ rather than ‘needs to be done’.

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I knew a woman who taught English to Italians. She said that if a rather confident type of Italian man said, "I speak well the English", she would give a lesson on 'get/got' - did you get on the bus?, what have you got in your hand?, how are you getting on? etc.

I have got a pink hyacinth on the table. I have a pink hyacinth on the table. I think the second of these two is nicer, woops, try not to use 'nice' all the time, ducky.

Bill Bryson wrote a book about words. I think he said some words were widely used in England and travelled over to the USA, where they are still used, and the English version in the UK is the one which changed. Is 'gotten' one of those words?

@upinaballoon

Bill Bryson wrote a book about words. I think he said some words were widely used in England and travelled over to the USA, where they are still used, and the English version in the UK is the one which changed. Is 'gotten' one of those words?

It is yes. This is quite well known.

I get highly irritated by English people claiming ownership of correct usage. None of the people doing this are linguists (or they wouldn't spout such nonsense) and a vanishingly small number will be linguistics specialists, so as far as I am concerned their irritation comes from a place of ignorance.