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Past tense of "eat" - ate or eat?

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BertieBottsJustGotMarried · 27/02/2014 18:09

I am curious and this is not an easily googlable one due to the spelling.

I was just talking to my friend, English is not her first language but she is fluent, and she asked me about something I said: "We just ate pasta all the time"

She said that she had also heard the past tense of eat as eat - pronounced et. She had thought this was a UK/US thing but I don't think it is - is it? We even checked in a pronunciation dictionary, neither was marked as UK/US and both were in there.

In context > "I gave him a sandwich but he only eat half of it". "We eat them all. There were none left."

That doesn't look right now I've written it, but I'm sure that eat, pronounced et, is a real word, otherwise how would I know it was spelt like that? Confused Is it dialect or something else?

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AnnoyingOrange · 01/03/2014 15:01

It's not planned, it just is what what it is

I also say both eether and eyether for either. Not sure why

HoratiaDrelincourt · 01/03/2014 15:04

I say "ett" and I'm well posh.

I don't pronounce the "t" in "often" either.

AnnoyingOrange · 01/03/2014 15:10

Anyone remember the song "Found a peanut"

One of the verses was "Et it anyway". Definitely sung as et by me and my fellow girl guides

Lyrics:
Found a peanut, found a peanut,
found a peanut just now.
Just now I found a peanut,

It was rotten, it was rotten,
it was rotten just now.
Just now it was rotten,
it was rotten just now.

Additional verses...:
Ate it anyway
Got a stomachache
Called the doctor
Had surgery
Died anyway
Went to Heaven
Forgot my teddy bear
Went after it
Back in Heaven
Kicked an angel
Went the other way
Found a peanut
Threw it away

JodieGarberJacob · 01/03/2014 15:10

Growing up in the 60s, my school told us that "'common' people say 'ate'", everyone else was brought up to say 'et' (spelt ate). And I've never given it another second's thought until just now.

chattychattyboomba · 01/03/2014 15:13

Where did you grow up Jodie? It's interesting as there are so many dialects on this tiny island!

Selks · 01/03/2014 15:18

Ate is correct, but you can also use eat in the past tense e.g. "He did eat it"...the 'did' being the past qualifier.

Can't believe people are seriously suggesting 'et' is an actual word!!

bazingasheldon · 01/03/2014 15:18

I'm a common welshy and I say et but write ate.

AndIFeedEmGunpowder · 01/03/2014 15:30

It's eyether rather than eether because it has a German root, Orange

AndIFeedEmGunpowder · 01/03/2014 15:32

And an envelope is pronounced onvelope rather than envelope because it's French.

forbreakfast · 01/03/2014 16:04

From my own experience; I also think the upper class 'et' belongs to the older generation, the younger/current generation being more likely to use 'ate'

Agree also about it ('et') also being used by those on the other end of the spectrum, and all ages

SwedishEdith · 01/03/2014 16:27

I say et and ate depending on what mood I'm in. It's much easier to say et though

JodieGarberJacob · 01/03/2014 18:54

This was the Thames Estuary chatty, not known for it's poshness!

bulby · 01/03/2014 19:40

Round here virtually everybody says 'et' it's not laziness or a class thing, it's purely accent. We do spell it ate though.

mawbroon · 01/03/2014 19:50

Round here, they might mean "I ate it all" but they say "Ah eh ih a"

I say it that way whenever the opportunity arises because I love it

badtime · 01/03/2014 23:11

Selks, I don't think anyone said 'et' was an actual word. Some people were just pointing out that it is a correct (formal or upper class, rather than 'slang' or 'dialect' Hmm) pronunciation of 'ate'.

badtime · 01/03/2014 23:15

chatty, 'et' is not a slang pronunciation. It is the correct formal pronunciation in standard British English. The 'ayt' pronunciation is actually more slangy (although it is now probably more widespread).

chattychattyboomba · 02/03/2014 00:56

Where did you learn that bedtime? (Not meaning to sound contentious just genuinely want to know the source)

perfectstorm · 02/03/2014 01:06

"et" is given as first pronounciation in the OED.

I use both, bizarrely. I'd never even noticed until this thread.

badtime · 02/03/2014 08:24

I use both too.

As perfectstorm says, 'et' is the first pronunciation in the OED, and a quick google shows that this is also the case in other British English dictionaries.

Also, every very posh person with perfect RP speech that I have ever met or heard says 'et'.

(Note on this British Library list of RP vowels, the second and third vowels both are 'eh' sounds and both have 'unstressed forms of ate' listed as RP pronunciations with that vowel: www.bl.uk/learning/langlit/sounds/case-studies/received-pronunciation/vowel-sounds-rp/ )

As I have said above, I believe this is another English class shibboleth, and can see the argument going the way of the 'pardon is horrid!'/'what is rude!' threads.

I think that this does not apply in the former colonies Grin, where only 'ayt' is a standard pronunciation.

Lepidina · 02/03/2014 09:10

I've only heard 'et' in RP speakers over the age of 60. Can see this changing in OED in future.

Also 'et' seemed to be used in inner city schools I used to teach in Manchester.

I think Hyacinth Bucket types use it too Grin

chattychattyboomba · 02/03/2014 12:31

Yes...luckily we have one standard dialect and no 'class' HA!

JessieMcJessie · 11/03/2014 16:53

My Dad used to say "etten" e.g. "where did my sandwich go?" "Your mother has etten it". I think it is Scottish dialect.

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