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Pedants' corner

Who wants to teach or learn about grammar?

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ChaosTrulyReigns · 18/04/2012 23:10

I may have seen on here, once or twice, unsolicited grammar lessons. Wink

So I thought it would be naice to have a safe place for grammar help.

If you don't know your arse from your aspostrophe, or your stushe from your subordinate clause, please feel free to ask on here with impunity. Grin

Also, if you can offer guildance on here, please feel free to pop along and gently steer.

I'll start with two questions and one lesson.

If I would like to say "Oh, yes, I went to their house, and had a super time" but wanted to miss out the word house, does their become "their's" or "theirs"?

I'm never sure which is correct in this instance - when at MacDonald's the pub and they ask "What drink do you want?", I'm always sure it should be "Which drink do you want?", but I can't articulate why. Please help. Smile

And my mini lesson. The word "it's" is only ever used to denote missing letters, and not to indicate belonging/possession. So "the cat licked it's arse" is bang wrong.

We probably do with Bof here for her semi-colon masterclass. Smile

Please come and join me for Grammar Fun Hmm but don't mention the typos.

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ChaosTrulyReigns · 18/04/2012 23:11
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tethersend · 18/04/2012 23:14

Good idea.

I need the definitive answer to the CD's problem.

LoopyLoopsTootTootToots · 18/04/2012 23:15

What is the CD's problem tethers?

Both CDs and CD's is correct, though the latter makes me grit my teeth. It just looks unpleasant, but the apostrophe can stand for the missing letters.

southeastastra · 18/04/2012 23:16

it's easier to say their house Grin

workshy · 18/04/2012 23:17

oo ooo ooo I have one which I share with my DCs ....

no you can't have a lend of my pen but I will lend it to you
yes you can borrow my book but I won't borrow you it!

ChaosTrulyReigns · 18/04/2012 23:21

Thanks a bunch sea.

Hmm Grin

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LoopyLoopsTootTootToots · 18/04/2012 23:21

"What drink do you want?" - no specific drinks on offer
"Which drink do you want?" - some to choose from.

MessyTerrier · 18/04/2012 23:21

Oooh! I'd like to sign-up for the semi-colon masterclass!

LoopyLoopsTootTootToots · 18/04/2012 23:21

And theirs

ChaosTrulyReigns · 18/04/2012 23:22

I completely agree with you Loops, but, [gulp] by extednig that logic - shouldn't it be C'D's? [unhelpful]

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MmeLindor. · 18/04/2012 23:22

Q1: I would never miss out house (is that a regional thing?) and have no idea.

Q2: No idea, but again I would never use that phrasing. "What can I get you?" is more commonly used here, I would say.

And can I say that I hate hate hate, "Can I get a large pizza and a coke?".

Good thread, Chaos.

Thank you for the its / it's - that is one that always confuses me.

LoopyLoopsTootTootToots · 18/04/2012 23:23

No. It should be C.D's

ChaosTrulyReigns · 18/04/2012 23:24

I thought it was theirs.

And, so, I was right about which then, wasn't I? They are asking me to choose from a finite selection?

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LoopyLoopsTootTootToots · 18/04/2012 23:26

Well, it depends. Do they point to the selection in the fridge?

LoopyLoopsTootTootToots · 18/04/2012 23:26

mini? Hmmph.

Nyx · 18/04/2012 23:27

It's CDs. If it was CD's, you'd be talking about something belonging to the CD (eg the CD's cover).

ChaosTrulyReigns · 18/04/2012 23:30

I think I gave a bad example tbh, Mme.

If you said "Is that your car?", and I replied "No, it's their car." buut wanted to miss out the word "car", it shold be "no, it's theirs." - I think that example is more, umm, normal.

What is mithering me about it is the fact that if you replace their with a proper noun like, say, Gerard Butler, you'd have to say, "No, it's Gerard's."

Putting an aspostrophe in "theirs" looks wrong, although it seems logical. As it's an ownershippy word anyway, perhaps it's superfluous?

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MessyTerrier · 18/04/2012 23:31

YY to "Can I get...". It's "May I have?... please" or "I'd like... please " and "their house", never "theirs".

Does CD stand for compact discs? If so, then it should be "CDs", surely?

ChaosTrulyReigns · 18/04/2012 23:31

Wel,l they only sell so many drinks at MacDonald's or so I've heard.

Wink
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ChaosTrulyReigns · 18/04/2012 23:32

Aargh. Strange comma placement.

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LoopyLoopsTootTootToots · 18/04/2012 23:33

Yes, it ought to be CDs, but CD's is arguable, as is C.D's.

tethersend · 18/04/2012 23:34

Ah, don't be fooled, Nyx- I thought that too, but Loopy is correct, I think... Since CD is an acronym, the apostrophe can be used in order to differentiate between the plural (CD's) and a different acronym (CDS). I think.

Or...?

LoopyLoopsTootTootToots · 18/04/2012 23:34

Same as 'hers' Chaos.

tethersend · 18/04/2012 23:35

Also, I need a which/that rule.

LoopyLoopsTootTootToots · 18/04/2012 23:35

Hactuwally, CD is not an acronym, it is an abbreviation. An acronym sounds out a word, eg. NATO, LOL, ROFL.