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Bruschetta - please help me

47 replies

MistsandMellowMilady · 11/09/2010 21:11

I like it very much so I'm frequently in a quandary.

I say, "Brus-ketta" and then the waiting staff always correct me with "Bru-shetta" whilst sneering.

Have tried explaining that the "ch" sounds like a hard "k" in Italian as in "Chianti". Then they probably go and spit in my food Sad

Today a waitress kept on and on saying she didn't understand what I wanted to eat until I had to explain and when I used the Chianti example she didn't know what it was. Oh and then she said she was dyslexic (despite telling DH she was at University training to be a teacher) so I felt really awful!

Pedants, what do you do?

Do you use the wrong pronunciation initially and risk scorn or pronounce it correctly and chance being "corrected"?

Sorry for crashing your board with my shite grammar btw Grin

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theyoungvisiter · 11/09/2010 22:28

Well I am drinking Merlot ce soir, personally.

Or should that be, Mer-low.

Valpollicella · 11/09/2010 22:30

Gri-gi-o

Not Gri -geeee- o

FellatioNelson · 11/09/2010 22:31

I think I can guess which one that might have been. Name begin with I?

theyoungvisiter · 11/09/2010 22:33

oo interesting Val - regional variation!

In that case I bow to your superior regional knowledge.

I mistakenly thought you were distinguishing between the French soft G and the English soft G and mistaking one for tother. If that makes sense.

I have known people vehemently insist that George in English is pronounced with a hard G - when what they mean is it's pronounced with a soft G, but the French kind of G.

Valpollicella · 11/09/2010 22:33

Right, let me know what you want to know how to pronounce and I'll give you the proper Iti way...

theyoungvisiter · 11/09/2010 22:34

sorry, that should have read "but not the French kind of G."

Arg, need to stop pedanting (and drinking Mer-low) and go to bed.

ShowOfHands · 11/09/2010 22:39

There must be a lot of regional variations but Italian friend has just sent a text and confirmed she has never heard it with a hard g (she's lived all over Italy). I've also just suffered a lecture on g followed by i and e in Italian. She's a languages lecturer.... I don't even speak Italian. I don't even drink alcohol.

ShowOfHands · 11/09/2010 22:45

Is Pinot Grigio even nice?

theyoungvisiter · 11/09/2010 22:46

Lol - let's just order Muscadet and have done Grin

[really really really going to bed now]

Valpollicella · 11/09/2010 22:47

Grin SoH.

Just goes to show how varied language can be. Lived there for 4 years and never heard it with a soft G

There's SO many variations that I know of...varying from one village to the next. The dialects vary massively, even 5 miles down the road

FellatioNelson · 11/09/2010 23:02

Yes, Pinot Grigio is nice! If you are not drinking champagne it one of the few white wines worth bothering with. (I am the oracle on these things doncha know)

Alouiseg · 11/09/2010 23:08

But my favourite Italian is Gavi di Gavi. Can't beat a Cortese grape imho.

No fellatio it was T and D the pair that have morphed into each other.

FellatioNelson · 11/09/2010 23:23

No!!! I know who the self-obsessed ones are, who was the one stressing? ID?

FellatioNelson · 11/09/2010 23:26

I might go to the PTA meeting in a couple of weeks and offer up my soul for their entertainment. I could infiltrate the mafia and feed information back to you. What do you think?

FellatioNelson · 11/09/2010 23:32

(disgraceful threadjacking again Blush)

Alouiseg · 11/09/2010 23:34

No LR was stressing Id is far too composed for that.

Good luck if you go.........is all I'm saying. I have a couple of spies in the camp to get my info :o

FellatioNelson · 11/09/2010 23:54

Of course - you don't need me! I loosely volunteered to join a while ago but I'm hoping they've forgotten. If I go I'm sure I'll live to regret it. Don't let me!

Alouiseg · 12/09/2010 07:05

I seriously wouldn't! Imagine getting roped into the Christmas bazaar? < vom>

MistsandMellowMilady · 12/09/2010 11:23

Little Red Dragon I suppose I found it strange that someone who has difficulties with the written word would want to go into a field where there is so much emphasis on it. But then she could have been training to be a P.E teacher for all I know.

I felt awful because I feel sorry for people who are dyslexic and there was I confusing the poor girl by wittering on about language Blush

Lesson learned.

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JaneS · 12/09/2010 13:38

I did wonder a bit, Mists. If you don't mind me saying, it's a bit annoying that you assume she couldn't get round the dyslexia when she's teaching. I'm doing a PhD in English literature, and I'm a long way from the only dyslexic to do that.

I know this thread is jokey but I try to pick up on that sort of comment when I see it, because lots of dyslexics do work with the written word.

MistsandMellowMilady · 12/09/2010 15:02

That's fair enough and it's the sort of thing that does confuse me because my sister was diagnosed in the eighties with dyslexia but really she just isn't academic in the slightest and doesn't enjoy reading or writing. Some people don't, her strengths and interests lay elsewhere.

I've started to learn a bit more about it from Mumsnet.

I'd like to think that my son will be able to get round his autism in the future and be able to do something he enjoys at a high level as you are. Sorry.

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JaneS · 12/09/2010 15:28

No, don't be sorry! I just think it's important to say what I said, because otherwise dyslexic people end up feeling they 'can't' go into certain jobs/do certain things. I always hope that if I say I know people who do, maybe someone or someone's child will feel better able to pursue what they want instead of feeling it couldn't possibly be for them.

I hope your son gets to do something he enjoys too - it's what we all want, isn't it? Smile

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