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Jalapenos!

41 replies

adamadamum · 05/08/2010 23:18

Everywhere I go I seem to hear people saying "Jallapeenos"! The word is pronounced "Halapenios"!

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jkklpu · 06/08/2010 20:23

in Spanish perhaps
but do you pronounce the French capital "Paree"
or the Spanish island holiday destination as "Malyorca"
and how do you say "paella" or "tagliatelle"?
and do you ask for 3 "paninis" from the toasted sandwich shop?

TonariNoTotoro · 06/08/2010 20:26

and Fajitas are not faj eeeters, and tortillas are not pronounced 'tortillers...'

Going to a Mexican restaurant this weekend, hope I get it all right :)

nickschick · 06/08/2010 20:29

Ds3 told Grandad hed had chicken farters for tea GrinGrin

PavlovtheCat · 06/08/2010 20:30

I asked someone in the supermarket were the 'Halapenios' were, and she looked at me like this Confused and when I explained them to her she said 'oooooh you mean jalapeeeeeeeeenos? over there!' Shock

jkk i pronouce them all correctly, apart from Paris, and panini - have never actually asked for 3 in a sandwich shop!!!

bluejeans · 06/08/2010 20:34

I love jalapenos and am a bit confused about this! Does sound a bit pretentious pronouncing it properly! (in the circles I move in anyway Smile)

Isn't it meant to have a ~ over the n too?

PavlovtheCat · 06/08/2010 20:43

ah, well, i can be un-pretentious then, as DH's family live in New Mexico Grin

foxytocin · 06/08/2010 20:54

A bottom set yr 11 lad had a go at me for saying 'halapenyos'. He insisted that they are called jalapeenos because 'that is what the guy at the pizza takeaway calls them, so there!' I tried to tell him that jalapenos are not even italian' but and the guy in the takeaway probably wasn't italian anyway but could only look at him like this --> Shock.

Other students were rolling on the seats at my Shock and laughed even harder after pointing out to him that I am a Spanish teacher and would have a better clue of how to pronounce 'jalapenos'. It was a classic Lauren/Catherine Tate incident.

TonariNoTotoro · 06/08/2010 21:07

My Dad calls them fart-eaters? Hmm

DP calls them flangeaters. [boak]

PavlovtheCat · 06/08/2010 21:18

Grin foxy !

foxytocin · 06/08/2010 21:29

Grin Pavvy! Where are you?

PavlovtheCat · 06/08/2010 21:39

I am sat in my front room in Devon with an indian take away, finishing off my lovely mini holiday away in the Cotswolds with that and a bottle of wine!

DH eats Jalapenos on everything, we have them in the fridge at all times and he considers them staple, like worcester sauce/encona/tobasco sauce.

foxytocin · 06/08/2010 21:43

I am in Dartmouth on the last night of my hols. So you and dh didn't take the job over seas, I take it.

Tell your dh to blend jalapenos and a touch of coriander in refried beans (preferably made from scratch) it will knock his socks off.

PavlovtheCat · 07/08/2010 11:54

foxy dartmouth is beautiful, hope the traffic was not too bad. Did you do the steam train/boat trip? No, we did not take it, as it was offered to someone else, turns out it was not a definite offer, but one that put him on a list! This friend keeps doing it to him, he has just been offered a 6 month contract in Dubai, this friend and asked DH to go with him, DH said 'sure, would be great mate, make it happen then come back to me' and got on with talking about footie or whatever!

I just told DH about the recipe, and he said 'i put jalapenos in it anyway!' he also likes making the refried beans from scratch but says they take too long. Now...do you know how to make the red/green chilli sauce they serve on burritos in mexican restaurants in USA? I luuuuurve them. In fact, all this discussion has resulted in us deciding to have breakfast burritos tomorrow, with tons of jalepenos!

Fink · 07/08/2010 21:03

Chorizo is in the same category as jalapenos, at least up here. Ask for it at the deli counter at Sainsbury's and you get it repeated back to you in a questioning intonation with an unmistakable 'ch' sound at the beginning, as in 'the passengers do the cha cha on the choo choo train whilst chomping on chorizo'!

bluejeans · 07/08/2010 21:13

How do you pronounce chorizo? I've got one in my fridge but luckily it was hanging from a rack not behind a deli counter

nannynobnobs · 07/08/2010 21:15

I always pronounce it Hala penyos, because thats what they were first introduced to me as.

foxytocin · 08/08/2010 11:45

We've done the boat trip to Totnes several times and then walked back to Dartmouth. (16 miles I believe) And taken the train to Paignton a couple of times to take the dds to the zoo. Taking soft holidays now. It took us 3 hours to get past Bristol yesterday though so I think the next time we may fly to Exeter and rent a camper van to live in next time. Grin

TrillianAstra · 08/08/2010 12:28

Chorizo - Horeetho. (approximately)

But no-one in Sainsburys will understand you.

I compromose with choreetho.

Refuse to say chor-it-zo.

Helapeenyo is how I say Jalepeno. My dad corrected me and I said if he wanted one of my chilli plants he had to let me pronounce it how I liked. (I am so glad I don't live with him any more, it makes me much more assertive) No idea why he thought he would know better than me.

foxytocin · 08/08/2010 12:31

It sounds like your DH and I can be kitchen buddies. Has he ever tried cooking them in a pressure cooker? They take about a 1/3 of the cooking time then.

I take it you mean their different tomato sauces? In the States most of the Mexican foods are really Tex-Mex. Generally any Mexican foods with cheese in it is Tex-Mex and based on northern Mexican recipes.

The green ones based on green tomatoes or and tomatillos (something which is unrelated to the tomato) and red tomatoes.

I make my sauces (based on Southern Mexican - Yucatec cooking) Where they put serrano chilis, I put very finely chopped habanero peppers and would add lime juice too to taste.

 Recipe  for salsa verde  (substitute red tomatoes for a red salsa.  Tinned toms work just fine.)	

500 grs. green tomatoes
½ onion
8 serrano chiles (not very hot)
2 sprigs cilantro
1 clove garlic

Salt

Method

Put in a frying pan quartered tomatoes, oil, roast them with serrano chilies, garlic and onion. At the time they are a bit toasted, put them in a blender and added salt and cilantro.

If the blending, is too thick and difficult to liquid, you can add a little water, but very little.

There are variations of the green sauce consisting of avocado and pistachio instead of cilantro for example. There is a Yucatec one with toasted pumpkin seeds too. These are great for vegetarian/vegan diets.

TrillianAstra · 08/08/2010 12:32

Cilantro is coriander right?

foxytocin · 08/08/2010 12:36

yes cilantro is coriander leaves.

i keep forgetting to translate words like that when I write/speak in the UK. apols for dodgy diction below as I am typing with one hand while feeding a demanding nearly 2yo.

singersgirl · 08/08/2010 12:45

But surely since chorizo is a Spanish word it should be pronounced with an English 'ch' at the beginning - not a German one. Same as 'chimichanga' or 'churros' or 'chocolate.

It should be pronounced 'cho - ree - tho' if you're using European Spanish pronunciation, shouldn't it?

TrillianAstra · 08/08/2010 12:50

I am going on what my Spanish friend says, but she is Catalan Spanish not Castillian Spanish (from Barcelona) - or maybe it's just her personal accent.

I have a friend who spent a lot of time teaching French schoolchildren how to speak English and I always wondered if they were going to come out of it speaking Northern Grin

singersgirl · 08/08/2010 20:46

I'm by no means a Spanish expert either...

bluejeans · 08/08/2010 21:19

okay so I'm still not sure how to pronounce it but had it for dinner tonight with scallops, yum!