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Cloth Nappies - Why?

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flamesparrow · 09/03/2005 08:47

To all of you using cloth - why did you decide to use them? Cost, enviroment, something else?

I'm intrigued about everyone else's reasons!

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morocco · 15/03/2005 11:17

feeling smug and saving money at the same time - great!!
I started cos I read a good article in the Telegraph I think about how cute they were these days and different companies that sold over the net. Until then I'd just thought the plastic pants and fold your own was the only option

pootlepod · 15/03/2005 15:14

I started because they looked easy to use, although I also use terries now.

I carried on because they are CUTE, much easier to launder than run to the shops and buy them and because a lot of people said I would go back to disposables after a while. And I get a fix hanging them out on the line

BevB · 20/03/2005 20:47

I bought some just in case I run out of disposables, then decided I was feedup with the bin getting full so quick and they were so cute I went 'full-time' at 10weeks and since then have been put off disposables because of the chemicals.
Everyone seems to think I am an 'earthmother' as I also wanted to breastfeed but dd was having none of it so have expressed ever since she was born just so she gets 'the real stuff', my nappies now get washed using soapnut shells so I'm really doing my eco-mum bit, lol.

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evansmummy · 24/03/2005 03:16

what are soapnut shells?

Yorkiegirl · 24/03/2005 16:39

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BevB · 25/03/2005 13:19

some info sites:
www.soapnut.com/
www.soapnut.info
www.lavano.com/en/waschnuss-infos.htm
I bought a load for a group of people on UKParents to try from an ebay seller in germany which worked out at approx £10/kg inc p&p, they are great for nappies at 60 but only just addequate for whites at 40.

lyra41 · 19/05/2005 16:42

can anyone recommend a good brand of washable nappy to buy. Or does anyone have 2nd hand nappies to sell?

Baby due in January 2006.

popsycal · 19/05/2005 16:46

environment, cost, chemicals and cuteness

chipmonkey · 19/05/2005 17:47

Lyra, I love fuzzi bunz but everyone here has their own favourite!

Rarrie · 22/05/2005 20:44

I got this from the academic journal of childhood diseases. I think it says it all for me.. even if not proven, the questions it raises means I want to take the safest option... for me that is cotton nappies!

Editor,?Partsch, Aukamp, and Sippell propose that increased testicular temperature in early childhood might affect later spermatogenesis. They suggest that disposable nappies could contribute to this and demonstrate a significant difference between the scrotal skin temperature recorded in infants using disposable nappies and washable cotton nappies. They mention in their introductory paragraph that other environmental factors may be important in the deterioration seen in male reproductive health over recent years, but do not relate any of these factors to disposable nappies. 1

There are many concerns about the use of disposable nappies in addition to increasing scrotal temperature that may impact on future fertility and general health. The disposable nappy consists of a plastic outer layer, a layer of superabsorbent chemicals and inner liner. Nappies are not subject to government controls or independent testing and disposable nappy manufacturers do not need to disclose the contents. 2 3

Recently, concern has been raised about the presence of Tributyl Tin (TBT) in disposable nappies. Greenpeace and Women's Environmental Network have commissioned research which showed that there were significant levels of TBT in many brands of disposable nappy, including those on sale in the UK. 4 5 Babies may be in contact with up to 3.6 times the WHO's estimated tolerable daily intake. TBT is an environmental pollutant which is used in anti-fouling ship paint. It is known to disrupt the endocrine and immune function of marine shellfish and there are international plans to phase out its use.

The superabsorbent chemicals used include sodium polyacrylate crystals which form a gel in contact with urine. This gel can be seen on the skin in contact with it and there are particular concerns about this entering the body through broken skin in the nappy area. Sodium polyacrylate, along with other chemical constituents that increase absorbency, has been removed from tampons as it was associated with the development of Toxic Shock Syndrome. 6 The inner liner has previously been shown to contain nonylphenyl ethoxylate, which acts as an oestrogen mimic, and dioxins. 3

In addition, the use of disposable nappies has important environmental consequences which may impact on child health. Manufacture of disposable nappies uses 3.5 times more energy, 8 times as many non-renewable resources, and 90 times as many renewable resources when compared with washable nappies. The description of such nappies as ?disposable? is misleading. In this country, nappies make up approximately 4% of household waste (800 000 tonnes per year) and every disposable nappy and its contents ever used is still present in a landfill site. 2

There are environmentally friendly and safe alternatives to the disposable nappy. Modern washable nappies are very different from the traditional idea of buckets of ?terries?. There are now shaped cotton nappies with velcro fastenings, alternatives to nappy pins, breathable covers, and disposable paper inner liners. Concern that the incidence of nappy rash is higher with washable nappies is unfounded?it has been shown that it is the length of contact of urine with the skin that is most important in the development of nappy rash 7 and it may be that an infant in a disposable has more chance of developing nappy rash as they are often changed less frequently than an infant in washable nappies. In addition, there are cost savings both to individuals and organisations using washable nappies, and there have been several successful hospital projects using washable nappies on postnatal wards. 2 3

As paediatricians committed to the health of children, we should be aware of the issues raised by the use of disposable nappies, the alternatives that exist, and sources of information and support for parents who are concerned about ensuring a safe and sustainable future for their children.

travellingmama · 01/06/2005 09:29

Hi I'm new to this board...we started looking at CD due to cost reasons and some concern for the environment. In 5 months I have become very PRO cloth.

In the 80s the US banned toxins from women's sanitary napkins and tampons due to health risks. These are in your child's sposies. If it is too toxic for a woman to use once a month, what the heck is it doing on a child 24/7 for at least 2 years?

The toxins are linked with childhood cancer and increased risk of asthma (caused by pollution, you can also simply be genetically predisposed to asthma).

Then if you have a boy, 'sposies can cause future fertility problems.

travellingmama · 01/06/2005 09:31

BTW - We love totsbots! Found them to hold more and leak less than any 'sposie we have ever had to use.

LeahE · 01/06/2005 09:58

Cost, fewer leaks because more adjustable (particularly if you get a nippa fastening rather than aplix), desire to avoid chemicals (when we do use sposies for some reason we use Tushies, which don't have chemicals and are just cotton pulp), lack of inclination to deal with bags of rubbish, lack of inclination to lug bags of sposies home from the supermarket, environmental issues and cuteness.

We use TotsBots as well -- with a PUL wrap in the day and a fleece wrap at night (they stay drier with the fleece wrap).

jojo76 · 01/06/2005 10:12

hello! Im a recent convert, did it originally for environment and babys health reasons, and now as well as those reasons, im also addicted to hanging them on the line and watching them blow!! SO SAD! they do look so much sweeter than disposables, i love ds's big nappy bottom, and am totally addicted to buying more and more types to try!!

jojo76 · 01/06/2005 10:15

oh, btw, roos mum, im using bambino mios with no problems, infact i find if you get decent wraps with them (the mio softs are nice, i did have some crappy second hand ones at first which didnt work that well.) they work fine! I think the tots bots are cuter, but i think the mios work best for me in the day.....im still trying to figure out nighttime nappies...

Bramshott · 01/06/2005 10:28

Mainly because I can't bear the thought that every disposable nappy I wore 30 years ago still exists in a landfill site somewhere (and will for a good while yet)! Urgghh!

Maisiemog · 01/06/2005 21:01

I initially decided on cloth as it was going to work out a lot less expensive.
Then I read that there were risks, particularly to boys of infertility from disposable use.
I think using cloth is healthier for the bum, as I feel confident that I know what I am putting next to my baby's bum.
And I am moving towards (2nd hand) hemp nappies now, to do my bit for sustainability (and absorbancy).
Plus of course, cloth nappies are the cutest by far, which ties in nicely with the whole dressing up baby to please my own eye, keeps me happy.

pixiefish · 01/06/2005 21:15

dd's health and the chemicals next to her bits, environment, cost and last but not least the cute factor... they are gorgeous

evansmummy · 02/06/2005 22:42

I'm a bit late but, WOW, that soapnut stuff sounds fabulous!! Might look into the prices of it!!

laundrylover · 09/06/2005 15:29

What a great thread. So glad that other people are so sad that they love hanging out washing on the line! I had PND and keeping up my nappy routine kept me sane and felt like the only thing I was good at!! I work in the waste minimisation field and do some work with nappy promotion. Couldn't bear the thought of throwing out more than our usual one carrier bag a week. Got given loads of prefolds for free and never had a problem, started at 10 weeks as my little girl was tiny but now I know you can prem wraps too so the next one won't ever need to see a foul disposable! We hand washed for 3 weeks in Argentina and only occasionally use Moltex which I find very good.

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