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Sending child back to old school - your thoughts?

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CarrieOn83 · 20/05/2024 09:25

Morning,

My daughter is 6 and Y1. She's attended nursery since age 1 and was with the same children throughout.

We live in a rural area so we were always some distance from the nursery and other people. Just how it works round here. When it came to sending her to school, we had the choice of either our catchment school or the village school where most of the nursery lot would go. Both had positives and negatives. We chose the village school and she went along with her nursery friends and spent Reception with them.

Several children were withdrawn from the school because of various very valid and significant concerns. Our daughter included. The head teacher was shipped out but it came too late for those who'd already been moved to a different school.

My daughter was moved to another village school where she had no previous knowledge of the children. The parents at this school have been very closed in terms of supporting growth in friendship. She's a very sociable little girl and had made a very good friend, but this upset the girl who was already friends with that child, so parents went into school and my daughter was discouraged from playing with her new friend. So she found herself playing with another girl who, by all accounts, she's become very close to. We saw them out at a local pub recently and they played together on the park afterwards. I got chatting to the parents, and suggested a play date to which mum said "oh no thank you." I'd mentioned how our children seemed to have hit it off and she gave no response. She spent some time talking about how she thinks her child doesn't really seem to have any friends at school.... while her child had spent most of their meal sitting at our table because they're good friends. Comments she's made over time make me realise she just doesn't want them to be friends for some odd reason.

My daughter is sociable, very bright, she's into performing arts so she's a bit of a character, and generally speaking very good at making friends wherever we go. But she's found herself feeling isolated at the school she started in September. I've had many chats with school and they say she always seems to play with someone if she wants to, but sometimes chooses to play alone. My child says people don't want to play so she does things by herself. For context, she simply is not a child who would choose to play alone if she was welcome to play with others. She loves company. She's a happy little soul and prefers being with others.

The new school is academically fantastic, which the previous school wasn't. It doesn't matter as much at this age, but it will in time. Since moving to the new school she's absolutely flown. They get so many experiences, clubs etc that also didn't happen at the previous school. Previous school has undergone a lot of improvements under new leadership, but I would say is still a way behind the new school.

Daughter still attends parties of some children from old school. She still has those friendships and they are as close as ever. She comes away sad that she won't see them for months because they're not at school together anymore. For months now I've had this nagging feeling that she should just be back at her old school. Academics are less important than friendships in my view, but she's bright so I also don't want her left behind on that front.

Just to be clear, the teaching and learning wasn't the only concern when we and others withdrew our children. Behaviour and bullying was an issue too. But things have improved a lot. The new school has very high expectations for behaviour, to the extent that last week she was kept in at break time because she'd walk too slowly back to the class after PE. She gets anxious that she will be having to go to the head teacher's office and we've definitely noticed a bit more anxiety since she changed school, I'm sure not helped by the fact it's in context of fickle friendships.

To add, the old school feeds the secondary school she will go to. The current school doesn't, but of those in her current class, at least half will actually go to private school, so she'll be one of only about 8 going to state secondary and they will go to different ones. Whereas at the old school, they'll mostly go to the secondary she will go to.

So I'm tearing my hair out. I could send her back, knowing that the old school will probably never offer the same standards as the current school, but does offer the great friendships that are important to her. I could keep her where she is and treat it as learning to build new relationships outside of comfortable friendships. Sending her back means definitely accepting that she won't have the same opportunities and experiences as she has where she is now. We could have kept her where she was in the first place, I don't like change in general, but things were terrible there and the ones who stayed were the ones living very near the school. Two or three that left have also returned.

WWYD?

Thanks in advance.

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Moreteaandchocolate · 23/05/2024 08:49

I would definitely move her back for lots of reasons, particularly the fact that it’s the one that goes to the same secondary school - it’s much easier to transition to secondary school with the same children from primary.

Nosygirl01 · 23/05/2024 09:32

Maybe you should find out if moving her again is even an option first?

disaggregate · 23/05/2024 10:09

The new school sounds awful, just move her back. I'd say you could prepare her for the transition back possibly being a little bit trickier than you think, in that while she's been gone the friendship dynamic might have changed a bit.

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CannotbebotheredNope · 23/05/2024 10:20

Send her back to old school. New school sounds really joyless and weird !

MalcolmTuckersBollockingface · 23/05/2024 11:46

Absolutely send her back to the old school.

I had a similar problem with my daughter and friendship issues in her small village school. Ultimately, the parents were the issue as they were engineering the friendships. Somehow our face did not fit. It was bearable in KS1 but escalated quite horrifically by year 6.

My daughter, on paper, is the kind of kid who should be well-liked and popular but she was ostracised and bullied. She never had any issues in her extra-curricular activities and is well thought of outside of school.

I had tried to move schools but there were no places available. I am now home educating as a direct consequence of the headteacher refusing to take action.

In essence, act sooner rather than later. Don't be like me!

Baba197 · 23/05/2024 14:04

Being happy, confident and having good friendships are so important, if she’s bright she will find ways to do well, the new school sounds too strict to me and if that mum is indicative of the parents then it’s toxic and that will start to wear your child down. Ask if spaces to move her back, if there is then ask her if she would like to move back

Bournetilly · 23/05/2024 15:04

Move her back. If they have spaces now she might be able to start after half term.

Ireallywantadoughnut36 · 23/05/2024 20:48

I'd move her back, I'd also ask her. Not in a "we will definitely do what you want" way but in an exploratory way, to see how she'd feel about another change but hopefully a positive one in terms of friendships, albeit it will mean losing out on clubs etc.
A lot of primary learning is reflected in things you do at home anyway, so if she's bright and given access to lots of reading material at home then she will fly regardless with her reading and if you discuss books her reading comprehension will be great. I wouldn't stress about academics, they learn best when relaxed, happy and feel they can ask questions and be curious (which it sounds like would be seen as answering back in such a strict school like her new one!)

WillowKC · 24/05/2024 09:38

Move her. If she's bright, she'll be absolutely fine. You're clearly a lovely mum who knows her child so you'll fill in any gaps I'm sure. The other things are so much more important at this age. You need a happy child who runs into school on a morning and the rest will fall into place.

We moved to a new area when mine were in lower primary and we picked the school with the lowest OFSTED rating because of the way we were treated and welcomed during a visit. The school had been poor and a new head had been there a year at the time - its improved year on year, its just had a GOOD rating and the parents sing its praises. My eldest is at a secondary which sounds very similar to your new school and he fills me with worry every day! Its an Outstanding school, has the best results in the region, the punishments are harsh and the majority of kids just don't seem happy. I'd move him to a village school in a heartbeat if I could protect him.

You know deep down what she needs....

EliflurtleAndTheInfiniteMadness · 24/05/2024 09:57

I don't like the discipline at her new school, Id be taking my child out for that alone. If she's bright Id actually be less worried about the schools academics. Bright kids tend to do well in primary school unless there's major problems like bullying. Her getting anxious around school certainly isn't good for her. I'd move her back.

ForUmberFinch · 24/05/2024 21:32

Move her back. A well supported child will flourish wherever they are.

Lola2321 · 25/05/2024 21:41

From reading your original post to me it was clear what you want to do - move her back to her original school. I hope she regains her sparkle!

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