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5 week old - is this colic?

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HumptyDumptyBumpty · 21/02/2014 22:29

My DD is five weeks tomorrow, and is a pretty good sleeper at night, going 12-4, 5-7/8. She is in a bed nest (NCT), and is 80% bf, with ff top ups.

However after about 8am, she basically won't sleep. She won't sleep on me, she won't sleep in her crib, she won't sleep in the basket, she won't sleep in the sling. Sometimes she sleeps in the pram if I take her out, but she doesn't stay asleep when the pram stops. She might nap in the bouncy chair sometimes, but just as often it will make her batshit crazy with rage.

She maybe has a couple of 40 min stretches here and there, and on a good day, will go for 3 hours once in the day. This can't be right! All the books say they need hours and hours, she's getting maybe 8 hours on a good day (in 24).
The rest of the day is me rocking, singing, feeding, walking, bouncy chair, anything I can think of that might settle her. She's constantly overtired,but when she refuses sleep, I don't know how to get her to be not overtired. She's frantic half the time, totally unsettled and unhappy.
With a huge amount of work I can get her to catnap, but hardly more. The time it takes to get her to sleep means there's barely time to do anything else ever.

The evenings are worse, it's hours of screaming. Unless she is walked and bounced constantly, she screams, beetroot faced and ironing board rigid. I've tried dummies, singing, music, white noise, Hoover (this will silence her, but only temporarily), every hold I can conceive of, she gets endless winding, I cannot think what it is she needs.
Both DH and I have bad backs already from walking and bouncing her (she was 10lbs at birth, is now well over 11), and tonight I lost it with her, and sat, letting her scream and scream, just saying 'no, I'm not doing this' over and over to her. She won.

I know, I do know that a five week old can't have tantrums, but it really feels like that's what it is.

Any advice, or do I have to suck it up? I'm losing my temper with her constantly and feel like a dreadful person.

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PassTheCremeEggs · 22/02/2014 21:21

I know you said you tried focusing on her morning nap but have you tried taking her out for a walk in the pram an hour after she wakes to see if she'll drop off? (If the pram works better for you) If she does, you can try doing it at the same time each day and she'll start at least to know when to sleep in the morning. I have found with both of mine, and particularly my second who is now 14 weeks and was very colicky, that if I didn't catch the morning sleep quick enough it would set up the rest of the day badly. At five weeks my baby was only awake for an hour at most after waking in morning before wanting to sleep again.

HumptyDumptyBumpty · 22/02/2014 23:27

JJJ will try that, thanks. Local bf group can help, apparently.

creme I could, but the issue is that she wakes up and needs feeding first thing. If I don't, she goes mad almost immediately, there's no hanging about time!
Then I spend the hour walking and bouncing and singing etc, with no time to eat or shower. If I'm not walking or bouncing or singing to her, she would scream for that time. I guess I could go out anyway (without washing/eating) a few times, but it's not something I feel v comfortable with, tbh!

When we've had to go out in the morning, DH has to take her for a bit while I get ready, but he works from home, and it's not fair to ask him to take time out of his working day every day.
I suppose I could try and wake up before her, but she wakes up at pretty random times, and I'm loathe to sacrifice any of the few times I can sleep! Any advice?

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PassTheCremeEggs · 23/02/2014 13:24

Obviously we and our babies are all different so this is just me and may not work for you.

I'd wake up, feed her, change nappy etc then get dressed yourself. If she cries just leave her, as long as she's safe she'll be fine for the few minutes it'll take you to dress. Putting the hairdryer on has worked to calm my baby for a short while.

Then have some breakfast yourself, pop her in a bouncy chair and bounce her with your hand/foot/whatever comes to hand just while you eat.

Then 45 mins after waking (which is probably now after you've done all this) go out with her in pram.

They say babies' habits can be made or broken in 3 days - even if it doesn't work it's worth a try? If you can persuade her that this time each morning is sleepy time you'll eventually be able to try her in pram inside house rocking it, and then just in pram without rocking and then cot etc.

I know you're uncomfortable about going out without a shower etc but might be worth it just for a few days if it has a chance of working?

Also I wouldn't underestimate the importance of staying calm with your baby , babies really pick up ok stress. Try and do happy sing song voices rather than the pleading to stop crying we've all done... If necessary take a break - just make sure she's safe and walk away for a few minutes. She won't be harmed by crying for a short time and you really need to look after yourself.

I have found routine to be a life saver with a colicky baby. It seems that if they know kind of what is happening next they're a bit happier. But nothing can "cure" it, you just have to ride it out. But you should speak to a doc about possible reflux because that won't just go away if it is that. Hope this helps a bit.

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apermanentheadache · 23/02/2014 20:09

I have had two babies like this - it sucks big-time. Flowers

In my children's case, the reason was milk protein allergy. There was lots of random vomiting and a general tendency to not sleep. Both fed well in the night.

How is her weight gain? Nappies? Skin?

HumptyDumptyBumpty · 26/02/2014 03:18

Thank you all. creme have been following your advice on routine and seeing def improvements, so thank you for bearing with the daft questions!

I have a totally unrelated daft qu, in fact: if you're out with pram, do you take it into loo/cubicle (space permitting!) with you, or just baby? Haven't done long enough solo trip to have to deal with this situation yet, and not sure what's sensible?!

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TravellingToad · 26/02/2014 05:47

Have you tried colief? Some babies have an immature digestive system and need help breaking down the milk. That's what these drops do. It's been a miracle cure for my baby. All the crying and pulled up legs and sore tummy that we thought was wind was actually he couldn't digest the milk easily.

Colief is different from Infacol and in fact if Infacol didn't work the colief is more likely to as colic is normally only one of two thing. Wind problems or problems digesting lactose.

LittleBearPad · 28/02/2014 00:17

On the loo front; if there is space - take the pram. If there isn't I picked a cubicle at the end and left the baby in the pram and the door ajar.

Ginformation · 28/02/2014 00:35

check out this link about babies who seem to cry for no discernible reason. I'm going through something similar op, it's horribly hard. Hope you have success on the nap front. Thanks

JiltedJohnsJulie · 28/02/2014 11:58

Don't know if anyone has mentioned these as haven't caught up with the whole thread yet. Have you had a look on youtube at "the tiger in the tree"? Its a good way to get wind up. While you are on there, also have a look at "Richard and Judy happiest baby". Its a good technique for soothing young babiesSmile

Have a read of [[http://www.askdrsears.com/topics/health-concerns/fussy-baby/coping-with-colic these articles] on askdrsears too Smile

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