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Starts school in 7 weeks and still in night nappies. Time to go cold turkey?

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spidermama · 24/07/2006 20:54

He still seems to wee every night in his nappy. If he had no nappy he wees the bed. My others were long out of nappies at this point so I'm out of my depth here.

What has worked or failed for you?

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MeAndMyBoy · 25/07/2006 10:30

I wouldn't bother. He's dry in the day and that's what is needed for school so don't worry about it.
My neice is 5 and is in night nappies, I'm sure there will be other children in his class that are in night nappies as well.

singersgirl · 25/07/2006 10:38

We did go to the enuresis clinic with DS1 when he was nearly 7, and he wasn't interested. It just happened when his body was ready. Since the beginning of December, we have only had 3 wet nights, 2 of them after eating bright pink ice cream (we normally avoid food colourings anyway, but it seems red/pink has a very specific effect on his bladder).

So I am much more chilled about DS2.

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controlfreaky · 25/07/2006 10:53

ds1 dry 24/7 at just 4. ds2 still in night nappies at 6.5 last summer. during holidays we cracked it with a buzzer alarm from enuresis website... expensive but it worked. not sure how it does it but after couple of weeks he has been dry ever since. we did this as he was suddenly v self conscious about being in nappies and was anxious about others knowing etc. if you start addressing problem can in reccommend the following: waterproof mattress cover / sheet / another waterproof matress cover / sheet. if theres an accident you can whip off top sheet and i waterproof without then having to remake bed...

Tommy · 25/07/2006 11:06

DS1 is starting school in Sept as well - his nappy at night is so wet in the morning that he often soaks through - there's no way I would take him out of them yet.
No need to worry that because he's at school, he should be out of them - no-one knows do they?

CristinaTheAstonishing · 26/07/2006 06:43

Controlfreaky - what a good idea about having two waterproofs and sheets on the bed at the same time.

DS is deaf at night (as he doesn't wear his hearing aids) so a buzzer alarm wouldn't work, although I know there's a vibration one that can be used. Thing is, he wriggles so much in bed I wouldn't know where best to place the buzzer to keep in contact with him...

Do you also disallow drinks after a certain hour? We've tried 7 pm but it doesn't work in this hot weather, he needs a drink later too.

controlfreaky · 26/07/2006 15:07

cristina, the "alarm" we had could be used just to vibrate... you clip one end to pants in peeing region (careful with the clip!) and alarm (v small) pins on chest of pj's.... if he starts to pee alarm goes off, he wakes up etc... our ds2 is v v heavy sleeper and i think that was part of the problem for him. dont know how alarm works but it really does if you follow the extensive instructions. dont think drinking sensibly really is a problem...

CristinaTheAstonishing · 26/07/2006 19:38

Thank you very much for the technical details, CF. I must admit I always wondered how these alarms work, I thought it was a little kind of pillow he'd have to sleep on all night. I'll definitely have a look for one now. Thank you very much.

singersgirl · 26/07/2006 20:15

Hi Bloss. Only just seen this, so hope can add something useful. Afraid it's turned into a bit of an essay!

DS1 (who'll be 8 in 3 weeks) wasn't at all interested in daytime training, though did it in about 10 days a couple of months before 3. He did have accidents (not many 'full ones') and even now sometimes will leave it so late that he wees uncontrollably all over the floor. He still seems sometimes to go from "I don't need to go" to "I need to go and nothing will stop me" in about 5 minutes.

He also had a brief phase of pooh accidents around the time he turned 4 and started school, having not had any since he was first clean/dry. We haven't had any since though.

Night-time wetting: He often used to double or triple wet at night - the Pull-Up would sometimes have leaked when we went to bed and we'd have to strip sheets, or he would wake in the night/early in the morning wet despite the Pull-Up.

As far as the clinic goes, we first went at just over 6.5 and he really wasn't interested - at this stage he was probably dry 2-3 times a week, but it wasn't consistent. When we walked out he said, "Can we stop talking about bladders now?". But that was the first time I think he realised that being dry at night was normal and desirable. I'd been so careful to avoid making him anxious that he hadn't even realised most children didn't need Pull-Ups anymore.

They gave us some useful general bladder advice: Aim for 6-8 drinks a day, and limit drinks after about 6 pm
No fizzy drinks (even water), chocolate drinks, blackcurrant drinks. We found that milk at bedtime made things worse and he got drier after we changed to water and a biscuit.

The enuresis nurse said we shouldn't try an alarm unless he wanted to be dry, because it is very disruptive and if it didn't work, he would feel unconfident later when he did want to try. She called us 6 months later (7y1m) and we agreed to leave it another 6 months, as he still didn't want to try.

Then in December (7y3m) I realised his Pull-Ups were mostly dry and started counting. When I realised he had had 7 dry nights we left off the Pull-Ups. Since then, the 3 wet nights I mentioned.

I'm very relieved as he has a residential trip next year! For a long time I thought it would never happen and then suddenly it just did.

Hope some of this is useful and/or reassuring and sorry it turned out so long. F

HRHQueenOfQuotes · 26/07/2006 20:18

definitely leave him - DS1 is a September baby - so one of the oldest in Reception last school year. He'll be going into year 1 in September (when he'll turn six) and we've only just started having any success with it. Even now it's with us waking him up at 10.30 to do a wee, and then he's got an alarm clock which goes off at 4.30am, he knows to switch it off and go and do one.

It'll only stress him (your DS) out more if you're trying to get force him dry at night and he's starting school.

CrocodileKate · 27/07/2006 09:30

Singersgirl, just read your message. Thankyou for that, I found it very reassuring.

controlfreaky · 27/07/2006 13:07

should have said, as bloss did, it V important that they WANT to be dry before using alarm thingy... idea is to make their wish to be drey part of the solution (and not their wetting the problem.... iyswim.

bloss · 27/07/2006 14:29

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NannyL · 27/07/2006 15:13

bloss... you probably do no other 'older' children who wet the bed....

its VERY common... just that there parenst dont advertise the fact either

1 in 10 10 year olds wet the bed at least sometimes!

JennyLee · 27/07/2006 15:18

My child is starting p 3 in 4 weeks time and is still in night time nappies and lots of others are too it is not so rare.

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