What did you think of the recent statement made by David Cameron regarding young girls clothing??

[Helenemjay]

It was David Cameron wasnt it? i have been talking to some friends about his 'creepy and wrong' opinions on some girls clothing, we agreed that to dress a 8/9 year old girl in a really short skirt with padded bra's etc IS really bad, my friend and i saw a very young girl recently with a very very short skirt on with 'im a very bad girl' written accross her chest!! i personally would NEVER dress my daughter in anything like that but then some people might say im being a prude??! what do you think?

Hate "adult tarty" clothing on little ones. Yuk!

DD (4y1m) has play make up, play heels, play jewelery...but for indoor fancy dress up only. Not for out the house or very playing seriously with.

Actually she does have one pair of heeled silver shoes - but they are her ballroom dancing shoes. She gets to wear them for dancing once a week and maybe the odd party (but only with a proper little girl's party dress!

My DD is 6 and she has started to object to the lovely party dresses she has worn up until now, it is very difficult to get nice party clothes that aren't tarty.

She is also desperate for high heels as there are some of he class wearing them, amazed at the height of some of the supposed school shoes styles, the winter boots this year were the worst with all the cow boy style ones.

I hate "chavy" clothing for children. Heck, I hate "chavy" clothing full stop. I won't buy DS ANYTHING which is remotely "street". Open his dresser drawer and you'll find polo shirts, plain chino-like shorts and plain tees. No logos AT ALL. NO tacky trainers. NOTHING remotely suggestive for DD.

There is a term - "prosti-tots" - which I think describes the state of some children's clothing to a tee!

It is a struggle sometimes to find clothing which is cool and conservative which doesn't cost the earth.

Oh - and I HATE seeing little boys with earrings. YURK!

Rant over - soapbox neatly stowed away....

generally I steer clear of anything with writing on it for ds (I'm a little terror/bad boy alert etc) as I just don't like it. Also hate the camo stuff that did the rounds a while back, I don't want him thinking soldiers are cool. Worst for me tho is the England footies stuff - but thats a) cos I'm scottish and b) cos I hate football culture. M&S has some horrific nasty nylon shirts in the colours at the mo.

There was a wee girl in the supermarket yesterday in heels higher than mine (I don't do under 2 inches by the way), pink mini skirt, pink fishnets, all manner of glittery jewlerry and a pink handbag to carry her pink mobile in. Can't have been over 5. whats she going to dress like when she's 16 if she's alread like that now?

That is why I went to clothes making classes at night school 3 years ago. When DH and I decided that we would start trying for a baby, I wanted to be able to make pretty dresses and skirts for any potential daughters we may have. When I was primary school, my teacher use to praise my mother about the dresses she made for me. They were unique and pretty. As it happened we had twin boys instead. However, now the boys are 2, I am distinctly unimpressed with some of the clothing on offer (combat rubbish etc) and I am now thinking about making them some trousers so that they look like little boys and not wannabe assassins! Perhaps I should shop around more too but with a double buggy, I really cannot face the grind of going from store to store.

2Manypims, when I was pregnant, DH and I were waiting to attend an appointment for ultra sound scan at the hospital and a woman turned up with her toddler son (he was about 3yo). Not only did he have a gold hoop and stud in each ear, he also had his very own gold chain round his neck and he wore a rapper type tracksuit We could not believe our eyes and still laugh about it now. I think the mother was a fan of Eminem because dressed her son like him!

Don't get me wrong, I agree with the comments about very young children wearing tarty clothes, earings etc -awful and looks so trashy.

I am FAR from a chav, however when girls hit secondary school age at around 11, I think they should be able to wear what they like within reason. I can't agree that wearing a short skirt or a top with a logo on it, or makeup makes them anymore likely to be promiscious, not try hard at school or be naughty. More than likely they'll get fed up of it after a short period of time as the parents haven't made a big fuss about it and turn into a goth

Talking of Next - they sell off the shoulder tops with thin strap vest underneath in 6 - 9 MONTH size (or at least they did last Summer). I nearly said something to the manager - maybe I should have! dd won't be wearing this sort of thing at least while I have control over her clothing budget.....

Totally agree with Emmylou.

Em32 - good point - when do you hand over the reigns of the clothing budget? dd1 is approaching 11 and I can feel the disputes approaching the nearer she gets to high school.

I have thought this since my DD1 turned 2, 3 yrs ago. I found that places like M & S did lovely baby stuff but as soon as you move to the next section it's all tarty and sparkly and spangly...yuk!

Next is just as bad if not worse.

I tend to buy from mini boden now. Bloody expensive but worth it to have my 2 girls look like girls in classic flowery dresses and hotchpotch prints. They do some funky stuff too but never tacky or tarty.
It does annoy me that I have to pay so much for decent looking clothes.
Whoever invented Bratz too and their line of little girls clothes. Trash with attitude !!

If you look on the average high steet though we are probably in the minority, that's why the retailers are still making them.
Disgusting !!!!

As for David Cameron, I don't care what his agenda is, he made a fair point.

Most of the parents dressing their children like this probably wouldn't know who David Cameron is anyway!

Have to agree with you all I think the clothes for young girls are appaling.

May have to resort to making my own dresses for DD rather than have her dress like that but there is peer presure even at 4 to wear the same as everyone else.

Also cannot stand to see baby and toddler peircing. I was discussing it with FIL who is a JP and he told me that it is actually illegal to pierce a child under 16 anyway but no one really enforces it.

I hate hate hate fcuk with an absolute vengeance, particularly when worn by primary school teachers. La Redoute sells thongs for 6 year olds - would your 6 year old want a thong? I know mine demanded big pants at that age. I am shocked to agree with a Tory, but I think this premature sexualisation is terrible and part of Britain's problem, actually. Children are introduced to sex at such a young age and then we are surprised when they go out and get pregnant. I sound like a ranting old lady, but trying to bring your girls up decently is not easy these days.

Also, I don't think kids should start dressing like tarts at 11 or any age and I am hoping that my 2 dds resist the "temptation" to have their bellies and bums hanging out. You often find that those with the most unsightly bellies and bums are the ones that let it all hang out. Why is this?

Agree completely fig it is a question that has baffled me for a while. Why do they think we want to see their wobbling flesh hanging out. I know some times you have to not give a eff about what other people think but walking around town is not it.

I have recently taken clothes back to NEXT that FIL recently bought our 3 year old as did not consider vest with strappy things and a GREY (wtf) zip top were little girl clothes at all. I think alot of the older clothes in NEXT are too grown up.

Am sure will have a battle with DD when old enough to choose but I am going to hold out and guide her for as long as poss

Figroll I agree with you on that one. One of my DD's friends who lets just say is on the plump side is always the one who appears to be a fashion victim, probably pushed by her Mother. The thing is the poor kid looks awful in the stuff she dresses in. She was at our house a few weeks ago for tea and was bending over the table to reach for some food and her arse was practically hanging out of the ill fitting hipster trousers that she'd been squeezed into. I wanted to get hold of her and yank them up. I agree totally that our kids are being encouraged to grow up far too quickly, shame on the shops who are pedalling bloody thongs and push up bras to little girls. I'm not fan of thongs anyway but kids wearing them YUKK!! Of course my DD is now going through the stage where she is getting fashion conscious but there is no way I would let her wear anything that either did not suit her, or was provocative or offensive. That story about the 11 year old girl who got pregnant while drunk made me feel sick and the Mother saying she was proud of her made me feel even worse, I can imagine its people like that who these offending shops are catering for and while ever there are still people buying this stuff then they'll just keep on making and selling it.

i feel sorry for the baby of the 11yr old girl, the granny needs a good talking to - wtf was she doing letting her daughter out at that time of night? i was bo**ed for getting pg out of marriage (my mom was catholic) when i was 19 ffs.

i too agree about the horrible clothes now designed for young girls. i think it's horrible that a woman of any age should want to dress like a tart, though that's their option, not mine, but to dress a little girl in those typoe of clothes is just disgusting- haven't these people heard of paedophiles?

as for school children, seniors, wearing miniskirts for school, if anyone who i was at school with wore something above the knee, we got sent home!!! then they had to face mother.....

dp agrees that fashion designers haven't got the sense their grannies were born with

agree with everyone about logos on bums. Was really disappointed when i found come beige leggings in next, couple of flowers on them, just what I was looking for, but no - "babe" all over the bum. for a 3 year old. Fortunately dd1 (6 today!) is so far quite victorian in her taste. One of her favourite outfits is a cord pinafore with a flowery shirt underneath from Zara, and when I told her she could choose a skirt from the Boden catalogue she chose one with curtain fabric style flowers on them. (not that anything tarty was on offer, but she definitely went for one of the least modern ones). I also agree with Emmylou. And I can't help wondering if it is cheaper to make tarty clothes - they use less material after all. And cheap material itself looks cheap and lends itself to tarty, iyswim

I think it was a transparent vote winner and quite honestly I have more important things to worry about

sorry should have said

attempt at winning votes

fair isle jerseys and kilts all round

Totally agree about the ones who bare (almost) all being the ones who should cover up.
Hipsters and cropped tops are not for children anyway! I find the things really uncomfortable so goodness knows how a child could put up with it.
Even in the 60's (not that I was around then ) the short dresses and skirts didn't look tarty somehow. I guess they were teamed with good tops and came in pretty not tarty fabrics.

Thewomanwhothought I must admit I do like the victorian influenced clothes that seem to have hit the market recently. My DD has a few items and looks lovely in them. I'd much rather see her something that looks classically old fashioned than some bum skimming, belly exposing garb with some povocative crap written on it. Bring back crinoline dresses with a dozen petticoats underneath, thats what I say LOL.

Oops meant to say "provocative"

Haven't read all of this but I agree totally and I also don't like aggressive logos and pictures on little boys clothes either.

This has come up on mumsnet before and most mums seems to feel the same. Friends in RL have said they hate it too. What I can't figure out then is who the hell is buying it all? There must be a market for it otherwise manufacturers wouldn't make so much of it but I haven't heard of anyone that likes it.

In my case, friends who don't have kids of their own have sometimes bought inappropriate stuff but I've always taken it back to the shop and swapped it for something else.

You only have to look at some celebrities' children to see who buys it and therefore creates a market for it amongst the chav celeb imitators.

They can't see that it's vulgar and displays a lack of adult intelligence ?

"Posh" isn't posh, she's "queen of the chavs" and there's no way I'd want to dress ds like her sons (most of the time). I am dying to see how she'd dress a daughter though and bet she's secretly a bit peeved that Geri Haliwell has had a little baby girl to dress up in all sorts of designer "prosti-tot" wear.