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Best parenting article you've read lately?

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Jbr · 30/09/2001 16:19

I found this on bbc.co.uk. I have forgotten the journalist's name who wrote it but I think it's great. She took notes while pregnant and after the birth.

"I have decided against being a mother. Don’t get me wrong, I’m delighted with my new baby, besotted, charmed, hopeful, I am in all ways like a mother, permanently spattered with a happy mix of bodily fluids, some mine, some the baby’s, some.. sort of hard to tell really. Anyway, despite being in all these ways LIKE a mother, I’m afraid I can’t be bothered – I have decided to be a PARENT instead. Why? Well a parent can have a few gin and tonics and no one thinks twice about it, but A Mother with a Gin Bottle… a sad picture wouldn’t you say, probably a dangerous one.. A parent goes to work, a mother (on the other hand) abandons her child.

I decided all this while pregnant. When the world went funny. I’m only saying it now because its quite hard to talk when you’re pregnant. Not because you’re stupid, but because it’s quite hard to talk when you’re waiting for something - a bus, or an earthquake, or a baby. So now that I have my voice back I want to thank (officially) all those people who went bonkers when they saw my bump.

The four grown women who cheered when I ordered dessert – thanks for the applause - the friend who would not give me a cup of coffee – brilliant, hey thanks - the woman who started to cry when I lit up a cigarette (I know, you were right, no really thanks for that), the aunt who said I shouldn’t get on a plane - the airline official who told me (wrongly!) that I couldn’t be insured to travel, ditto, all the drunk people who told me I should go home and get some rest now, thanks -and to the many people who could not resist touching the sacred bulge, the miraculous mound, no really, that was nice... thanks.

Thanks for the mineral water and the plates of salad and the ice-cream, thanks for judging me, thanks for thinking that you had a right to judge me, and a duty to tell me all about it. Thanks for turning me from an ordinary individual, into a vehicle for all your pyschological tics and issues, a sort of public bus with MOTHER written on the front. Thanks for climbing on.

Actually, most people were fine. And pregnancy was remarkable, so I wasn’t surprised when people make a fuss. But it did sadden me to see how tainted people thought the world was, how frightened they are of what we eat and drink. A cup of coffee is not a certain amount of caffeine, it is a moral event. It is a serious moral event. I came to the conclusion that society has (or is) one big eating disorder, barely kept in check.

And it was not just the food that their scared of. Why do people – alright some people- not trust pregnant women? They can’t stop themselves – they panic, they can’t control it – this sudden overwhelming conviction that you want to Damage Your Child.

I decided that it was a mother thing…

I decided that we have two images of Mother – a) a woman who is all things good and lovely or b) a monster.

These extremes come from such a helpless part of us, helpless and ancient – Is this why people panic – because they are babies again, because they think I am their mother. But I’m not you know.

I have a feeling that this will go on now the rest of my life – the mother thing - the irrational comments from strangers, the self-righteousness, the mad urgency of what people have to say. The whole big swinging guilt trip. So, listen, spare me fears, your needs, your primal anxieties, and pour me a nice gin and tonic yes, I am mad about my child, and good to my child Go ring your own mother, if you still have her. The old dear, she’ll love it.".

This is almost always what I try to explain, but she does it better than me! I am never a mother but a parent! It's true about complete strangers prodding you around as well! I don't agree about the guilt trip, because only mothers feel guilty but I am not one of those, I'm a parent.

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Lizzer · 11/10/2001 11:40

No way Bells! I really didn't think people would do that. When I worked as a waitress I don't think I had time to even notice who was pregnant I was so busy rushing around. If someone asked ME for a special dietary requirement I would happily get a list of the ingredients from the chef but to assume it is very intrusive and over-bearing. I think perhaps the waitress would've liked to be seen as being caring and concerned so I suppose that article which I happily slated for it's inconsistencies is truer than I orignally thought too!!

Bugsy · 11/10/2001 13:05

That really is quite something Bells. I'm sure it was meant well, like so many of these things are but it is just so unnecessary. I think that part of the problem is the litigious age that we live in. Companies are terrified that they may be sued if you go into premature labour having consumed or taken part in any activity they supply.
When I was 36 weeks last time, dh & I went to a lovely hotel for a weekend break. As well as a pool they had one of those whirlpool bath things. I just couldn't think of anything more relaxing. I was aware that there was some kind of risk with getting overheated, so I asked my husband to try out the temperature for me and he said it definitely came nowhere close to the temperature that I like my baths, so in I hopped. Sure enough it was utter bliss - for two minutes - until a white coated healthclub employee came up to tell me that the whirlpool was not recommended for pregnant women and that "the management" would like me to "refrain from using it". I could have wept from frustration. I thought of strap-hanging on the bus and tube day after day while no-one got up, of all the business travel I had done way past the 30 week mark (with doctor's OK, of course), of all the jostling and bump bashing walking through busy train stations etc etc and wondered if they were really recommended for pregnant women and then the wonderful feeling of all those bubbles massaging my aching back. Even now, I still feel agrieved!

Crunchie · 11/10/2001 21:26

Yeh Bugsy another one who had to go through the hell of commuting heavily pregnant, and have no-one give up their seat etc, but when trying to relax in a whirlpool bath, they couldn't have been more concerned!! (for themselves!)

Now I have got to admidt 1st time around at 27 weeks I was in Paris and I drank like a fish. In fact I remember our last night of freedom we had one bottle of wine, then I encouraged my DH to have another, and we finally polished off champagne cocktails! (oops) I was the one stone cold sober trying to drag a pissed Dh home.

Oh and just to make me feel really guilty, before anyone trys to say how terrible I was, I had my baby a week later (yes at 27 week +5 days). But It was nothing to do with that night (it has taken me 2 yrs and another baby to realise this) I was already very ill with pre-eclampsia, but dim I am didn't realise how sick!

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Tigermoth · 12/10/2001 12:15

Well should I swallow my words regarding the harmlessness of drinking a few daily cups of coffee while pregnant?
I saw an article in The Telegraph yesterday that said new guidence from the Food Standard Agency suggests that expectant mothers should limit their daily caffeine intake to three cups of filtered coffee, or six cups of tea, or eight cans of cola, or four cans of 'energy drinks', or eight chocolate bars ( yum!!).
The maximum caffeine intake can be reached by consuming one bar of chocolate, three cups of tea, a can of cola and a cup of instant coffee a day.
According to recent reports, caffeine intakes of over 300mg a day were linked to a possibly increased risk of low birth weight and miscarriage.

I have to say that for both my pregnancies, my caffeine intake was definitely over this. And when trying to combat morning sickness I fell back on a popular rememedy: drinking can after can of fizzy pop. Worried now in retrospect!

By the time I was 7 months pregnant I definitely eased up on the no-alcohol rule, drinking about one glass of wine a day (sometimes more!). As far as I was aware, once your pregnancy is advanced, you can be less strict with yourself.

However I had to seriously bite my tongue when I met an acquaintance of mine in a pub. Five months pregnant, she was knocking back glass after glass of wine, while smoking. Apparently she had suffered a miscarriage two months earlier. Then she complained of stomach pains, and went back to her doctor who discovered that she was still carrying a child - the twin of the one she had miscarried. Because she had been drinking and smoking for the last two months, she said she thought it must be indestructable, and was just going to carry on as normal.

Star · 12/10/2001 13:17

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Ems · 12/10/2001 14:22

Star, is this the afternoon where you need to add the F word to every comment you leave, I dont think its necessary (or particularly nice).

Jbr · 12/10/2001 14:57

The thing is we always say "it's not an illness, then some want "special treatment". It's the same at work in a way - wanting the same rights, but demanding different treatment.

As for coffee, just get de-caf.

There are some stupid drinks around I have to say. Someone at work once was drinking TRIPLE caffeine cola! Not a well known brand though; can't remember what make it was.

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Loola · 12/10/2001 16:06

When I was pregnant, I think I got so irritated by people coming up and rubbing my belly more because I was generally sick of being prodded and poked by midwives and doctors as well. It got to the stage that every time I saw a white coat I ended up with my legs in stirrups and after having given birth I went through a long phase of ....wait for it and don't laugh......having to wear thick jogging trousers and sweat shirts and socks at night because I felt safer....cocooned, protected almost. The article was funny because I love sarcasm and I have to say that on the public property front, I agree. I did not expect special treatment at all and wouldn't brook comments about anything from anyone - none of their business same as if I had commented on their choice of a blue rinse or whatever. When anyone approached me and started rubbing my guts, I would ask them to stop in the nicest possible way or move aside. Simple really. If you don't like it, don't put up with it. Generally I guess people have to decide what side of the fence they want to be on - do you want people to have the ability to say what they like to you and vice versa or do you want people to mind their own business and ergo so should you. Its a talking point if nothing else!

Tigermoth · 12/10/2001 16:24

Off the subject of pregnancy. Years ago I remember being extremely irritated when I went on a diet. OK, I was a teenager, and for a short while a little too thin, but for most of my dieting time (about two years) I weighed around eight stone, height: five feet five-ish (those were the days!), so I was not sketetal.

Yet the comments I got from my parents, friends and other adults! Each time they saw me, they would tell me if I'd put on or lost weight, and where. My food intake and choice was a topic of general discussion. I really didn't want to hear this stuff - I was going through a very shy and self conscious phase.

I don't diet now, but I've noticed time and time again that if, say, a work collegue announces they are on a diet, the people around them see fit to pass comment on their changing shape, welcome or not.

Croppy · 16/10/2001 13:25

Did anyone see the article in the Times today on the woman with 3 children trying to have a fourth?. After TEN miscarriages, her husband suggested to her that she should perhaps consider modifying her caffeine intake as she averaged more than a dozen full strength cups of coffee a day.... I have to say I think its extraordinary that it wouldn't occur to somebody that that amount of caffeine is not ideal in early pregnancy!!.

She subsequently went on to have no. 4 after halving her coffee habit....

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