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New book: TV is even worse for kids than prevouisly believed.

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spidermama · 02/10/2005 20:54

It's coming out of Thursday but is being previewed in some papers.

It's called Remotely Controlled and it has some pretty explosive assertions about how really terrible TV is for our brains (especially the under 3s).

Will you buy it/read about it?
Or turn the other cheek?

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QueenOfQuotes · 02/10/2005 20:56

Won't buy it, might read about (I'm sure there'll be links to articles about it on MN )

Regardless of what it says, I'll still turn the other cheek

morningpaper · 02/10/2005 20:57

I might read it if I can distract dd with CBeebies...

I HATE television but my 3 year old watches between 2-3 hours a day. I think she has seen everything she watches at least once. Basically I am too lazy to entertain her all the time and I want to read the paper/make dinner without interuption. It's a selfish compromise to make time for me. I hope her brain doesn't turn to mush.

spidermama · 02/10/2005 21:02

Over exposure to TV can compromise one's ability to spell 'previously' it would seem.

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merglemergle · 03/10/2005 08:29

had just ordered book when saw this thread.

for some reason, amazon recommended it to me. Why? Because I've bought Angelina Ballerina videos from them (for ds, not me)

watching thread with interest. basically, i am not really a tv watcher and would happily get rid of it, however ds had no speech at 20 months. We introduced tv at this point for a number of reasons (basically me 7 mths pg and knackered-he does not sleep very much at all, and even then requires a parent with him at all times)-and his speech has improved really dramatically.

Also, he seems to really like ballet and dance and I find it hard to find live performances that are 2-year-old-friendly (we are in Cardiff-when we were at my parents in London a few weeks ago he saw a performance in Covent Garden and was entranced-he's still trying to copy the steps!)

But we are talking here of 20 minutes of Angelina or Teletubbies or BSL when its raining. No ads til he's old enough to deconstruct them! I HATE the idea of every member of the family sat in a different room, eyes glued to the box.

And I do not like the way ds behaves when watching his videos. His breathing DOES slow right down and he will not talk to me or his sister. Is this a bad effect or is it actually developing his concentration? I genuinely don't know.

On the other hand, I do yoga to get into a state like this-and I do find that when I am watching tv I actually switch off from what the tv is saying, and think my own thoughts. I would never just watch tv, I would be doing knitting or whatever.

But as I say, if it were up to me I'd ebay the telly , I hate it, especially the way it takes up a good square metre of our not huge house.

triceratops · 03/10/2005 08:52

And the other research in the news this morning was that anyone who is looked after by a person other than their mother before the age of 3 finds it hard to concentrate and shows violent tendancies.

Where is my hair shirt anyway?

QueenOfQuotes · 03/10/2005 11:11

so what happens if the child is looked after by their mother until they're 3, but have the TV on a lot

creepycat · 03/10/2005 11:15

I think youve hit it on the head there QoQ
I dont think tvs good if it on all the time and the kids are lounging permanently in front of it and screeched at to get back in front of it if they dare move away...
...but I do think its better for them to sit and watch tv than get under your feet while your trying to get on with something and end up being yelled at just because your rushed for time or whatever.
I use it when the dds are too tired to funtion doing anything else and if im late cooking dinner they watch a bit of the simpsons without whinging and crying in my ear/under my toes that they are hungry.

basketcase · 03/10/2005 11:19

Just wondering if it is one of those extreme views where they equate watching tv to child abuse or more rational science stuff about brainwaves and worth taking seriously??
I worry a lot about bringing up my kids badly so if this is just extreme hype and not worth raising my guilt and stress levels - please let me know
My children watch tv - not as an alternative to family activities but because they enjoy it and are so active that it is a great way to get them to stop for a short while. The tv is not on constantly and we do stuff as a family - however, power rangers and spiderman are held in high regard in this household...

merglemergle · 03/10/2005 11:31

yeah, we have tv because ds is SO active.

am always sceptical of tv research where brainwaves are mentioned thuogh. i think they need to look at whether other things cause similar brainwaves, eg yoga (a Good Thing), reading, etc.

also, different kids do interact differently with telly. a lot of our imaginative games as kids took telly as a starting point.

think telly is a resource that can be used well or badly.

merglemergle · 03/10/2005 11:35

ps Spidermama, where are these previews?

Is is basically this approach?

Issymum · 03/10/2005 11:51

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Gobbledispook · 03/10/2005 12:13

Turn the other cheek me!

It's too handy when you have 3 under 5 and you are trying to get something done. Mine don't watch it all day and often even when it's on they aren't watching it.

However, the things they do watch are quite educational. My 4 and 2 yr old can count to 5 in Spanish and say numerous words in Spanish too - all courtesy of Dora the Explorer. Bonus!

Anchovy · 03/10/2005 12:24

Things like this always piss me off. Television is only a medium for conveying onformation - just like books. Isn't it all a question of both what you watch and how you watch it?

We have Sky+ and tend to record stuff to watch at leisure, although I do also like the "ritual" of having set times for set things on terrestrial. DS (nearly 4) adores "How Its Made" on Discovery (which for the more mature amng us is like "Through the Arched Window" in Play School - shorts about how a complete variety of things are made - guitars, contact lenses, bread, false limbs etc). He and DH will curl up on the sofa and watch these together as their treat. Both children love nature type programmes - especially ones about either lions or fish/sea etc - the Crocodile Hunter ones are quite popular as well. We pretty much always watch something like that together when DH and I get home from work as a calm down before bed. Some things on C-Beebies they like - other things they both confidently tell me are "pants" - we are trying to get them to understand that things aren't automatically "good" or indeed "true" because they are on tv.

I tend to keep DS away from Power Rangers type things as he is a bit young at the moment and I used to have quite vivid nightmares as a child from things like that (and also because they are, well, pants!)

I've got a friend who didn't have a tv at home until she was about 8 as her parents belonged to a religious sect who thought things like this were pernicious. As such, she has no "shared memories" of things like Blue Peter Christmas Appeals or John Craven's Newround. She thinks it is a bit sad.

WigWamBam · 03/10/2005 12:34

I might buy the book for dd's Reception teacher ... the children apparently had an hour of Come Outside on Friday, and it appears that they watch at least 40 minutes of television at lunchtime every day. We have an appointment to see her on Thursday ... I shall have to pick up a copy of the book on my way there!

Gobbledispook · 03/10/2005 12:35

Anchovy - what time is 'how it's made' on? - what channel (i.e. number?) - sounds like something my ds's would like.

handlemecarefully · 03/10/2005 12:35

I'm sure it will turn out to be utter bollocks - no I won't be wasteing valuable personal time reading it, when my time could be spent more productively

Gobbledispook · 03/10/2005 12:38

watching tele hmc?

handlemecarefully · 03/10/2005 12:39

...also without tv my kids would be eating turkey twizzlers, oven chips and frozen pizza - because I wouldn't be able to find the time and space to cook a decent meal (they are 1 and 3)if I couldn't rely on their attention being fully diverted for the time it takes to make their dinner.

handlemecarefully · 03/10/2005 12:40

lol watching tv gdg or mumsnetting no doubt!

Anchovy · 03/10/2005 13:00

GDG - I'll check tonight re "How its Made" - it really is brilliant. DH and our nanny are completely addicted to it. There is a really good one about making glass eyes!

HelenEmjay · 03/10/2005 13:03

Is tv really bad for kids? my 2.5 is watching nick jr at the moment and its buying me some great peace and quiet! does that make me a bad mummy?? am i supposed to be doing productive with him???

HelenEmjay · 03/10/2005 13:04

Lol! hee hee, i meant productive things with him!

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QueenOfQuotes · 03/10/2005 13:15

do children actulaly watch 53hours a week, or is that how long the TV is when they're in the room??

I think there's a vast difference between a TV being "on", and child "watching" TV.

handlemecarefully · 03/10/2005 13:19

I don't disagree with trying to limit it to 2 hours daily. I might start 'auditing' it in my household just to see.