REALLY worried now....... he's 4.2yrs and still not dry....

[Toothache]

... at night.

We cut down his apple juice intake to one small cup at bedtime. He does a big peepee before bed.... a big peepee when he wakes in the morning, but his nappy is STILL sodden. We have spoken to him about it and he is really keen to stay dry all night and never have to wear a nappy again. He even wets when he falls asleep for an hour sometimes. It's really getting him down too. He's such a sweet sensitive wee boy and he can't understand why his nappy is wet in the morning (or his sheets if we try with no nappy).

Please tell me it'll all just fall into place one day.... or at least that is normal. It's really getting us all down.

toothy - my DS (nearly 4) is exactly the same. shows no signs whatsoever of being dry at night. In fact we ran out of nappies last night and no where was open so he went to bed in pants and absolutely soaked the bed at midnight - poor little man.

Very interesting about the holding onto wee in the day affecting nightime Beety - DS does this a lot so maybe that's not helping.

That's interesting that your DS1 wet if he held on during the day, beety; with my DS1 it was the other way round, we did bladder training with him ("here, drink this 2-litre bottle of water and don't wee for the rest of the day", lol!) because otherwise he was going every hour.

The waking thing is from the unconscious brain recognising the signal that the bladder is full; the hormone is intended - ideally - to stop it getting completely full so it doesn't matter if they don't wake - useful for the very heavy sleepers.

Ds (almost 5) has been dry day and night for about a year, with only very rare accidents.

However, we learnt a lesson last night: if your child comes into your bedroom at 11 at night in ters becasue he has been woekn up by a bad dream: don't just put him between you in the big bed, telling him he could stay there for a wee while before we put him back in hisown bed.

Do check with your child if they need to go to the loo, and consider that it might have been a full bladder that woke the child up.

Guess whose bedtime reading last night was disturbed by a sudden warm damp patch developing beside me?!

One a serious note though Toothache - everythign I have ever read/been told is many 5 year olds are still not dry at 5, so just be patenient and reassure your wee boy.

I wouldn't worry about it just yet, frustrating though it may be. dd is just 4 and only fro the last 10 days-ish dry at night, even then it was a bit hit and miss last week so the Pampers mat is still there just in case.

Agree with Enid, we find apple juice in the evenings a real no-no. She was wet each time she'd had it and ds also had a bout of night-time diaorhhea(sp) when he'd had sparking apple juice when we went out for an evening meal.

ds was never had a dry nappy at night but announced he wasn't going to wear one one evening so we took a deep breath and went with it. He was fine so think it does just happen when they are ready.

It's normal - a lot of children (especially boys) are wet at night until they are at least 5.

Oh dear... he LOVES apple juice (watered down 50%), it's all he drinks! Whats best then? I don't want to give him diluting juice and he doesn't like fresh orange.

Look for my thread tomorrow entitled "How do tell my Ds he can't have apple juice at bedtime.... but reassure him I still love him?"

Maybe keep diluting bit by bit say 60/40 etc...

DS1 will be 5 next week and still not dry at night, very good during the day though. I worry occassionally then take comfort in the fact DP was wet until he was 6 or so (MIL told me, DP wasn't too happy about that one )

another one here
ds was 6 in march and still not dry. GP has given him Desmotab (the hormone in pill form thingy) and his pullups aren't as wet but they aren't dry.

My dd is four and still wears nappies at night. No probem, it will happen eventually. My friends mil has her son most weekends she got him dry at night at 18months and his sister is now two and dry!
Perhaps thats the trick children all go th mil for the weekend .

My son wet every night until he was 7, we cured him within 3 months using a bedwetting alarm. I learnt that 80-90% of children aged 5 and over are cured using an alarm, providing it is used consistently and the child is well motivated.

Alarms teach the brain to recognise the feeling of a full bladder when asleep and to wake to that sensation. Most NHS clinics use them.

There is lots of information on alarms on www.bedalarms.co.uk

Hope this helps someone,
Helen