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Am I being unreasonable no. ??????

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harman · 04/03/2004 16:45

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Clarinet60 · 04/03/2004 22:44

My ex had a gun. The police come round and you fill in a form - it's very simple. Nobody inspects the cabinet after the event and it's down to the licence holder to remember to lock it up every time. The police don't babysit you. Kids have a way of finding keys. So my answer is no, no, and no again!
Fortunately, DH agrees with me and loathes guns too.

mummytojames · 04/03/2004 22:52

my ex had a gun and i lived in fear the entire time it was there so no your not being unreasonable guns are dangerous and at least when hes at the club there is someone keeping a eye oout to make sure nothing an happen if mine grows up and asks me i will tell him the same thing over my dead body literarly

jasper · 04/03/2004 23:16

Aha! if there is a money issue here that puts an entirely different complexion on it! Not fair to allocate scarce resources to luxury hobbies, surely?

Five minute wonder? More than likely if he's anything like all the rest of the men in the world (I did not really say that)Just make some non comittal muterings and he will forget all about it and you won't get the "my wife would not let me..." label.
I still think the safety issue is not an issue IYSWIM. I am pretty scared of guns (duh!) but have two very close friends who are keen shooters who have educated me in their viewpoint.

jasper · 04/03/2004 23:17

pph...spaniels?

Levanna · 04/03/2004 23:18

Hi harman, yes, it would be a shotgun for clay pidgeon shooting. It's cartridges (shot) rather than a bullet.
My step dad (tosser, ahem, sorry, that's entirely irrelevant ) used to keep several rifles and shotguns, locked away, and under the usual stringent agreements........
Of course we found the keys, is there anything you can really effectively hide form children and absolutely 'guarantee' that they wouldn't find?
Admittedly, we never used the shotgun apart from under supervision, we just accessed it, but that was due to a sheer fear of SD finding out. (He was the type who'd redial the phone when he came home to check we hadn't made any calls while he was out! So, he would definitely have known had we used the guns.) Shudder to think what would have happened if we had ever left them unlocked, and little Dsis had got to them .
Also had a friend who killed himself with a gun.......

secur · 05/03/2004 09:29

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Twinkie · 05/03/2004 09:40

Guns would never cross the threshhold of my house - and thats that!!

harman · 05/03/2004 09:48

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princesspeahead · 05/03/2004 09:53

I must say I can't see why you would want to own a shotgun if you aren't going to shoot birds. If you are only going to shoot clays, then unless he is also planning on getting a trap and shooting clays in your grounds, why doesn't he just join a clays club and use their guns?
The only point in having a shotgun is if you are going to shoot birds on your own land (whether pheasant or eg jackdaws) or if you regularly shoot game at friends' shoots or commercial shoots.
I also think that if you are just shooting clays you probably don't have sufficient experience and culture surrounding proper shooting to know how to manage and keep guns safely and appropriately - the etiquette around game shooting has arisen over many years and is entirely about safety. People loosing off shot at clays are a different breed IYSWIM. You probably don't. Never mind, ignore me!

Jasper - spaniels - smelly and usually soggy. No thank you!

marialuisa · 05/03/2004 09:57

Harman, my male relatives all love nothing better than stomping round the countryside massacring wildlife bred for the purpose BUT why does he need to keep guns for clays in the house? Unless you're on a farm (in which case I imagine you'd have guns anyway!) there's not much chance of him pulling clays in the back garden is there?

harman · 05/03/2004 10:26

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JanZ · 05/03/2004 11:10

If he wants to buy a gun - or even transport someone else's gun to a shoot - then he has to have a licence.

Years ago I used to clay pigeon shoot, borrowing my then boyfriend's guns. If he didn't fancy going along to the club (which didn't have facilities to store guns), then I couldn't go as it wouldn't have been legal for me to have the guns in my car.

I then decided to get a gun - but had to make it clear to the Police Authoirity that I would never be storing the guns in my own house, so I didn't have to get a cabinet. I just wanted to be able to travel with them legally.

Like PPH syas, the UK laws are so strict that the risk of an accident involving kids (or others) is incredibly low.

Freckle - clay pigeon shooting IS done with a shotgun - the fact that there is a "spread" from the pellets is part of the skill involved.

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