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twiglett · 30/01/2004 08:51

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valleygirl · 31/01/2004 13:30

well I've bought some really good quality "designer" stuff for my step kids from this internet website called milliemoos - she sells everythign from Gap to Next to Adams to Osh Kosh for fraction of cost. I got a really good pair of Levi's for under a fiver the last time I shopped there. Website has photos of clothes, and she's very reliable. And you'd hardly know they were second hand clothes

kagsie · 31/01/2004 14:12

I think there is designer and real designer! Wouldn't buy armani etc but have got some lovely things from Selfridges sale (Liberty Tshirt - £7, looks great and feels good). I think the quality really is better and these things get real hammer in nursery so wash and wear better and thus dd needs fewer clothes - cost therefore is the same if you buy them at reduced price. I do have some Next things but find that the trousers are not designed to go over reusable nappies so she grows out of them too quickly.
Have just bought autumn/winter 2004 clothing in the Boden sale. I like them (him?) because the clothes are different from the high street, designed for children, not sized down adult clothes (often a bit too lip gloss culture for me). Some might consider these "designer" because they are a bit more expensive. As for presents - its very generous for people to buy such good quality clothing so why worry!

JennH · 31/01/2004 14:14

Personally i find the quality at ASDA wonderful (but then my husband works for them )
I LOVE Ethel Austin, all her basics are from there. Primark and Peacocks are fab as well.

kiwisbird · 31/01/2004 21:22

I buy mostly too Boden really, it sells well on Ebay when outgrown, so works out cheaper than other makes! The trousers also fit over reusable nappies better, while keeping a small waist size, it washes well and is funky gear!
I love it for me too.

suzywong · 31/01/2004 21:25

that's a good idea, I like Boden email me if you ever put up any 3yr boy stuff kiwi

magnum · 31/01/2004 21:25

I agree with you JennH Asda baby clothes are fantastic. They look good and wash really well and you can tumble dry nearly all of it which is important. Ethel Austin are great as well and so cheap. I can't see the point in spending fortunes for such a short amount of time that they fit.

aloha · 31/01/2004 22:03

I'm not posting this out of snobbery - ds has LOTS from Primark (me too!) ...but...I do worry about very, very cheap clothes. I wonder how if it is possible to manufacture clothes ethically if they cost so little. I worry about chld labour and sweatshops. I KNOW that it's not a direct correlation (some places have a higher profit margin than others) but I feel that very cheap clothes may be that cheap at the expense of the workforce.

Demented · 31/01/2004 23:15

eBay is fab, I have bought Osh Kosh dungarees from there (last for ages, hardwearing, fit well over cloth nappies) and sold them again for more than they cost me, now that's a bargain!

PS Jasper Conran boys' PJs are gorgeous, worth a look on eBay or Debenhams' sale, then sell them on eBay after!

BekkiKay · 31/01/2004 23:57

What is designer exactly?
What kind of price range are we talking about?
IMO kids are kids and they don't care about clothes. And wearing nice clothes won't make them any nicer. When ds1 was little I was obsessed with making him look nice and trendy and perfect. I realised that this was to do with my fear of others not loving him as much as I did. I wanted everyone to accept him.
Now he wears jogging bottoms (playgroup insist on this) Next or Adams to playgroup with Clarks shoes. On special occasions he gets to wear his best Next shirts and trousers. But I wouldn't dream of throwing away the amount that I did on his clothes now.
Ds2 also has his jogging bottoms (cloth nappies)for everyday and his nicer clothes for when people actually get to see him out of his snowsuit (not designer).
On saying that though the amount we spend on shoes probably adds up to the same as buying designer clothes. He has a new pair of Clarks' £30 every 2-3 months and Nike trainers £30 every 3 months too. Hmm, thats where I could cut back!

mouli · 01/02/2004 00:31

where are these ethel austin shops then?

SueW · 01/02/2004 01:15

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zebra · 01/02/2004 02:44

People on this thread I think are almost rating Next, OshKosh or Gap as "designer"; but I'd still call all those "High Street".
Bekkikay: stuff in TickTock (shop where we live). To me, THAT's designer. Elle is the only make I remember offhand, it's the prices that stuck in my head instead. £19 for a pair of leggings age 12-18 months, £27 for a jumper age 0-3 months, etc. I think those are quite modest prices, too, for true "designer" stuff.

bossykate · 01/02/2004 06:23

aloha, i agree with suew, i don't think the use of sweatshop labour is confined to the very cheap end of the market. if you're really planning to cut out clothes which are produced unethically, the place to start is Ethical Consumer .

zebra, i agree with you that next and gap are not designer. however, i would price many full price gap items in the "expensive" bracket, whereas i think next is "expensive for a far from exclusive high st store" i suppose oshkosh would fall between "expensive" and designer.

tigermoth · 01/02/2004 08:37

I am so glad my 4 year old is now wearing school uniform for five days a week. It stops his 'civvies' wearing out and I won't have to buy so many of them. I don't buy anything that costs more than £15.00 an item for him, except coats and shoes.

But it's the quantity he needs that can push the price up. When he was at plyaschool he went through so many outfits each week. Now he wears the same pair of grey school trousers from Monday to Friday. I hate it when I find myself washing his clothes after one wear - just the constant washing can age clothes a lot and it's not environmentally friendly to use all that soap powder. I try to sponge off small marks instead, but it's so easy to bung everything inthe wshing machine I don't always succeed.

Bekki · 01/02/2004 08:39

Oh o.k I see, thanks Zebra. Yes Tick Tock is designer. I go in there for a laugh sometimes. £25 for a sleepsuit hmm, I don't think so. In saying that I bought two hats from there a few weeks ago, two Timberland hats for £15, not bad but still a little extravagent for me.
Next and gap are high street as far as I'm concerned.

twiglett · 01/02/2004 08:42

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hmb · 01/02/2004 08:43

Tigermoth, my 2 wear school uniform and I am so glad. It does stop the one-upmanship about clothes that seems to 'demand' ever more expensive clothes. Fine, if people have the spare cash and they want to by designer stuff, OK, it is a free world. But some parents get pressured into spending cash they don't have so that their kids don't get left out or teased for not wearing the right sort of trendy stuff.

The school second hand shop also does a roaring trade, and you'd be hard pressed to get stuff much cheaper any where. As I posted earlier the most expensive item was the duffle at £60. But it has done 3 years for dd as her winter coat and 2 for ds, so I think it was a bargin

SueW · 01/02/2004 09:03

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Blackduck · 01/02/2004 09:41

I agree about Next and hating the fact I'm paying for the clothes AND advertising for them too...I have only bought stuff in there because I've been given vouchers and I actually try to find something that hasn't got their logo on (hard I know...) Gap I think is expensive too....will buy in the sales....
My mil has bought me quite a bit of stuff from Primark (vests are fine and cheaper than elsewhere.) Tesco stuff is okay too. Only designer item ds has/had was a pair of dungarees by a french company...very sweet, but very pricey (but then I didn't buy them!)

jac34 · 01/02/2004 10:33

I can honestly say, my DS's have never worn a single disigner item in their lives (now 5yo).
I buy alot of their Jeans/trousers from Primark, as I find them very hard wearing and excellent value for money. As for tops/sweatshirts I have been buying in Adams and H&M , since they have been older as they seem a bit more trendy.
When they were babies, they never had anything that wasn't in the sales.
Since they were small I've always had comments from people on how well turned out they are.

As long as the clothes are hard wearing,I think it's the care taken in washing and ironing, that make them appear nice, not how much you spend on them !!!

marialuisa · 02/02/2004 08:56

just a note on the Osh kosh thing, the reason it is cheaper in the States (available in Wal-Mart, I think) is because the stuff was made with thinner, lower grade material. The stuff for the European market was made in France until very recently and used better quality material. This was because Osh Kosh pitched itself as a "designer" label in Europe but not in the USA. The sneaky people then tried to switch to the US standards but still charge designer prices in europe. It backfired horribly. They now seem to be treading a middle road.

As for waht we're teaching our kids by buying them designer labels, I think it depends so much on why you do it. I buy designer stuff occasionally because there's an item I love, there may be bargains in the sales, the quality is often so much better, I like the little detials that are on the clothes....I also loathe most of the clothes that are available in high street shops for little girls. DD is not quite 3 but tall. If you go into next their 4+ clothes for girls are mainly mini-teenage styles, stuff with slogans all over it, J-LO tracky bottoms etc. I don't think it's appropriate. I think stuff like this looks tacky. Nevertheless most of DD's stuff is what I'd call "top-end" high street from an American chain called Gymboree, they have stock in quite early but change "collection" every few weeks so things get marked down very quickly.

SueW · 02/02/2004 09:30

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Demented · 02/02/2004 09:59

Should add that most of my DS's clothes come from Adams, they always have a great sale.

Lara2 · 02/02/2004 20:57

My poor boys!! They are still working their way through the ASDA PJ's that my friend gave me from her first son - he's now 16!!!! Seriously, they have both worn ASDA stuff that has already been through 2 or 3 boys before them and it's all still OK; not shabby or moth eaten at all. Quality doesn't have to equal loads of loot and visa versa!!

nutcracker · 02/02/2004 21:02

My ds had his first pair of Clarks shoes today and it looks like it's going to be more expensive thean first thought. The lady measured his feet and said he was a 3 1/2 but then when she did his width it was off the scale. He ended up having to have a 4 just to get the width, but we only had a choice of one style (luckily i liked them), but she reckons that shoes will definatly not last him more than 8 weeks at a time until he's about 4. I'm thinking of asking people to sponser his feet, what do you think ??

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