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Nappy change issue

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nappychangedilemma · 17/09/2021 09:58

Hi,
My son has started nursery recently. Since he was 10 months, he has been in pull up nappies as he hates lying down to change nappies. The nursery has told me that they will only change his nappy with him lying down but this means that my son isn't happy and they are forcing him to lay down. Could someone please confirm if the nursery is only allowed to change a nappy with the toddler lying down? Thanks

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00100001 · 18/09/2021 14:21

And do these lay down for nappy change refusers also refuse to Kay down for naps?

jannier · 18/09/2021 16:04

@00100001
It explains why so many come with debris in the creases and sore bottoms. I have one supposed refuser I now lay down and clean at 7.30 arrival every morning.

00100001 · 18/09/2021 16:12

[quote jannier]@00100001
It explains why so many come with debris in the creases and sore bottoms. I have one supposed refuser I now lay down and clean at 7.30 arrival every morning.[/quote]
😬

MathsyUsernameGoesHere · 18/09/2021 16:29

@WavesAndLeaves

Clearly PPs do not have a child who will genuinely not lie down for a nappy change. My 13month old son is in full on tears if you lie him down for a change and has been since about 7 months - standing up became the only way we could do it. Fortunately our childminder is accommodating of his needs, rather than upsetting him several times a day. It's not a tantrum, it's proper distress. I don't use physical force on my child unless it's a safety issue, no way would I hold him down (or let anyone else) just for a nappy change. Hope you can find a solution OP, but tbh I think nursery need to find a way

My 14 month old cries for every nappy change. Sometimes a toy or a song helps, sometimes not. Never occurred to me to do anything else tbh, babies cry and nappy changes aren't fun, it's not a big deal.

RoseGoldGlasses · 18/09/2021 16:36

Don't they all go through a stage of hating having to get their nappy changed?
It's a couple of minutes then soon forgot about.

2much2do2littletime · 18/09/2021 16:37

My almost 2 yo twins are both in pull ups - partly as they are easier to change that way and partly as honestly they are the only ones that fit my skinny dt2. Nursery are totally fine with it, and have never said anything about it being more difficult etc - but I do like them down for poo changes - rip the sides to take soiled nappy off, get them to hold their toes while I clean, then it's super quick and easy to put new nappy on once clean.

insancerre · 18/09/2021 16:42

But babies cry for lots of reasons
If you go through life avoiding doing things that make your baby cry, then you are in for a very rocky ride
I really don’t understand this style of parenting

jannier · 18/09/2021 17:07

@2much2do2littletime
The issue is the need to undress their bottom halves rather than just pull trousers down to shoes to put a new pull up on you have to take it all off so baby spends longer lying down anyway I've been in communal changing rooms on outings and changed 3 Los in the time pull up mums are doing one....Still with playing and interaction. If I were having to remove all shoes and clothing they would all be sitting there crying from boredom.

jannier · 18/09/2021 17:13

To be fair most 7 month olds don't stand independently anyway so why are they screaming lying down? Is it becouse they are always in arms and don't get tummy time or floor play? If you lay them under a baby gym they are amused anyway.
I love the advert with the crawling away baby who suddenly on the sight of a nappy pants looses the need to crawl and lays smiling on their back......and conveniently neither time is baby waring any clothes.

00100001 · 18/09/2021 18:51

@2much2do2littletime

How are the easier to change? Surely you have to take all bottom half clothes/shoes off every change?

How is that easier than bit having to remove the clothes?

00100001 · 18/09/2021 18:51

Than not having to*

insancerre · 18/09/2021 19:05

I work in a nursery and we have a trick to make changing pull ups quicker
Just take one shoe off and one trouser leg off. The pull up can then be put on over the shoe and trouser leg

jannier · 18/09/2021 19:34

@insancerre
Still takes a lot longer all that threading....especially with converse and skinny jeans

stormyweather274 · 18/09/2021 19:36

You're being precious.

2much2do2littletime · 18/09/2021 20:32

@00100001 - for my two it's easier as the putting on is so quick as they don't fight it, so it's just like pulling pants up, rather than pinning a squirming upset toddler down... plus the extra send or two to take a pair of joggers off their feet, rather than leaving them around their ankles is no big deal to me. Also if they've just done pees then I can just change them stood up quickly...

FTEngineerM · 18/09/2021 20:47

@00100001

And do these lay down for nappy change refusers also refuse to Kay down for naps?

No.. ours hates lying down so he stands at the sofa and I whip his pull ups off wet wipe and put new on. It’s is so so so much easier, for us anyway.

For naps he climbs on his bed and goes to sleep.. sometimes we lay him down and he just goes to sleep..

FTEngineerM · 18/09/2021 20:50

I'm not entirely sure how you clean all the crevices when they're standing up...

Ahem.. lift a leg.

2much2do2littletime · 18/09/2021 20:59

@jannier - having twins I can assure you I want the quickest way possible to change them and for us (and I'm aware it's not the same for everyone) through trial and error I have found that it's significantly easier to use pull ups since they've been standing/walking. Like I said, I do lie them down for poo changes (but generally that's once a day) and they put up with that, but when I'm changing their wet nappies they just don't want to lie down (too much to do, too little time!) and it's all about picking battles. Also, the clothing changes my DT2 (who is v slim) would need due to leaking nappies from the standard tab nappies (we tried a lot of different ones) definitely took up more time!

jannier · 18/09/2021 21:18

@2much2do2littletime

jannier · 18/09/2021 21:18

2 of 4at the momet

2much2do2littletime · 18/09/2021 21:23

@jannier 😍 aww! They are CUTE!

Tumbleweed101 · 18/09/2021 22:13

Pull ups are a pain when you have a lot of children to change, especially in winter when you may need to take off all their muddy boots, trousers etc. The worse ones are the pull ups for tiny babies that can't yet stand for you to pull them into place.

WhatILoved · 19/09/2021 05:58

I'm a childminder and have children in nappies. Pull ups require more time to change and are much messier when there's a number 2. We don't want to be spending oodles of time doing this, we want to be providing your child with fun education and play

Fibbib · 23/10/2021 22:45

As a nursery practitioner I hate pull ups they are pointless. Takes much longer to change a child in a pull up. They don't help with toilet training if anything they hinder it. I can never understand why parents use them.
Nursery are probably worried they can't clean him properly if he doesn't lie down. And then he would become sore. It won't harm him being made to lie down even if he doesn't like it when he poo's. If he was wet I would change him standing up if he is happier.

simonisnotme · 03/11/2021 16:09

i also think pullups are a pain in the arse
i can understand using them if toilet training (just) but not on babies thats what proper nappies are designed for
and as for being 'distressed lying down' its a dam sight quicker and easier to change a crappy nappy lying down than stood up

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