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i suddenly like girls aloud

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southeastastra · 02/01/2010 11:30

i think i'm turning into a gay man. i especially like 'untouchable' am i alone?

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UnquietDad · 04/01/2010 16:07

Nothing wrong with them at all! They are fine perpetrators of classic popular music.

UnquietDad · 04/01/2010 16:13

By the way, the synths on "Turn To Stone" remind me a bit of Jean-Michel Jarre's classic electronic albums "Equinoxe" and "Oxygene".

GetOrfMoiLand · 04/01/2010 16:14

I laughed my socks off when I saw GA first appearance on Top of the Pops on the telly this Christmas.

Bless them. All pink stilettos and ra ra skirts like a ram raid at Jane Norman circa 2003.

I like their music, specially Loving Kind and The Promise. Really good pop songs.

How long until UQD says that Sarah H is the best

Cicatrice · 04/01/2010 16:18

Nicola is the best one. I won't hear any different.

UnquietDad · 04/01/2010 16:19

Sarah is the BEST

spokette · 04/01/2010 16:33

Girls Aloud exemplify everything wrong with the music industry today.

Manufactured pap
Overproduced pap
Incapable of singing in tune live because they cannot sing
All image and no substance.

If the music industry was based on truly talented people who could actually sing,hold a note, invoke emotion and convey passion with their voice or songwriting, garbage like Girls Aloud would never exist.

UnquietDad · 04/01/2010 16:39

That's absolute rubbish, spokette.

They are no more "manufactured" than the Beatles. And what does "over-produced" actually mean? What's "over" about the production? People bandy this term around because they've heard it. I first heard it used to describe Kate Bush's 'The Dreaming' back in the 80s, and to me that just said "well, you've not listened to it properly".

They do sing live, and their image is no more or less important than that of any other band, including those whose image is studied casual "we don't have an image" like the Arctic Monkeys.

(There are some truly dreadful pop groups around at the moment who have no tunes and no charisma, like N-Dubz and the like. Let's save our ire for them.)

Cicatrice · 04/01/2010 16:43

NICOLA.

spokette · 04/01/2010 17:18

UQD

The Beatles wrote their own music, played their instruments and in the latter part of their career, arranged and produced it. Their music is timeless, meaningful and will be played for eons. Elvis and Frank Sinatra did not write their own music but were great singers who connected with their audience through the emotion they imparted to their music. I cannot believe that you would even think about putting GA in the same sentence as The Beatles. The Beatles were serious musicians. GA are a bunch of skanks who are more interested in fame than music.

GA sing pap. They could not tell the difference between a crochet or a semi-breve. In fact, if you mentioned crotchet to them, they would probably think you were talking about their crotch!

Over-produced means that their voices are disguised to make them sound better than they actually are. Producers tend to do this with extraordinary bad singers and it comes though on their awful records.

They sing live - out of tune and are incapable of holding a note or even conveying meaning - but then when you sing about nothing, their is nothing to convey. T

IMHO of course!

southeastastra · 04/01/2010 17:32

they sounded pretty good in concert the other day (on tv)

there's room in the music biz for all types and we all need over produced pap sometimes.

and i love a wide range of bands - just like music

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southeastastra · 04/01/2010 17:34

and the dreaming is one of my favourite kate bush albums uqd!

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InThisSequinBraYesYouOlaJordan · 04/01/2010 17:34

Puts a vote in for...KIMBERLEY!

UnquietDad · 04/01/2010 18:04

I knew someone would rise to the bait with "you cannot put them in the same sentence, grrr". Spokette, my point is that all rock and pop performers from Bill Haley and the Comets onwards have been "marketed".

As you rightly point out, many artists like Sinatra and Elvis did not write the vast majority of their own music (although Colonel Tom Parker cannily ensured that Elvis got songwriting credits, knowing that this would be a better financial investment and paving the way for the "vanity credits" of today). If we are going to judge artists' musical quality by whether or not they write their own songs, then the Stereophonics are supposedly better than Elvis and Sinatra. And if we are going to judge them by whether they play instruments rather than "just" singing, then you'd have to say Brother Beyond and Bros are better than Diana Ross, Nat King Cole, Kirsty MacColl and Dusty Springfield.

I'm not sure in what way they "sing about nothing". Their songs are about love, loss, regret, affairs, one-night stands, duplicitous partners, betrayal, city life and the general confusion of twentysomethingness - so that'll be like, those of, ohh, pretty much every pop group of the last 40 years, then.

The production question is by no means as cut-and-dried as you have made it sound. A lot of modern pop groups like Girls Aloud, Take That, etc. have that very "polished" sound which only an excellent producer can give, but I look at it in the same way as I do the excellent editor working with a talented novelist - they give the final professional sheen to something which is already good but maybe a bit raw. Obviously they are not perfect. Cheryl's voice is quite thin. Sarah's is husky and more suited to big rocky numbers. And so on. But somehow, they achieve a kind of pop alchemy.

I bet you any money their songs will still be being played on the radio and in clubs and and parties in 20 years.

UnquietDad · 04/01/2010 18:46

The "manufactured" thing I suppose is a reference to the fact that they were created for a TV show - fair enough, but these Pop Idol/Fame Academy/ X-factor programmes are just the modern-day equivalent of 'New Faces' or 'Opportunity Knocks'. They serve a purpose. They give someone an initial break, but it's what they do after that which counts. I mean, who remembers David Sneddon or Michelle McManus today?... GA have transcended their origins, I think.

TheFoosa · 04/01/2010 19:06

you REALLY like GA, don't you

Mamazon · 04/01/2010 19:08

i love GA.

went to see them at wembley last may.
got all the albums and everything.

dont care if its sad, i like it

cyteen · 04/01/2010 19:33

Wow, spokette, that's some bad attitude to women you've got. Even if you don't like their music, stereotyping GA as a bunch of brainless sluts rather than the savvy, intelligent performers and businesswomen they are is quite shamefully misogynistic.

Mamazon · 04/01/2010 19:41

and they sang live when i saw them and other than the obvious strain dancing put on their breathing they were fantastic.

GetOrfMoiLand · 04/01/2010 19:47

Well I think the beatles are crap anyway and would far prefer to listen to GA than that lot

Mamazon · 04/01/2010 19:52

i have had this argument with my dad. he goes on and on about the fact that music today oisn't as good as it was in the 60's.
i point out to him that the beatles were big fish in a small pond. whislt cream always rises to the top i would say that they would have been another foo fighters or green day. big but not the super badn they were in the 60's.

the field is much wider and the different genre's of music available nowdays makes it impossible to be anything but.

and no im not a massive fan of the beatles, although i do have mkassive respect for their fgootprints on the industry

splodge2001 · 04/01/2010 20:05

Who cares about crotchets,

unfortunately many who can tell the diff between crotchets, semibreves, quavers and demi-semi quavers write crap songs.

They dont write their own stuff, so what! that does render the product invalid, Xenomania are an amazing team, producing innovative and cool pop music, remember the days of PWL? aka Stock aitken and waterman, that stuff was truly shite!!! (except a couple of early tunes eg. You spin me -dead or alive)

MsSparkle · 04/01/2010 20:11

I read the GA book that came out last year and i was quite impressed that they manage themselves after being left to it by Louis Walsh when they one popstars. They are actually quite savvy business women, especially Kimberly.

MsSparkle · 04/01/2010 20:13

when they won popstars

spokette · 04/01/2010 20:15

Innovative and cool pop music? Well if that is innovative pop music, then I am a lemon.

Cyteen, if I said something derogatory about a male band would you call me a man-hater?

My personal view is that GA are crap, just like most of the crap that originates from the those awful talent shows. If that upsets the devoted fans, tough. Thankfully, there are few of us out there who appreciate and support truly talented artist who spend years developing and perfecting their craft. Not like the wannabes who want instant fame and rewards without actually having any intrinsic talent!

MsSparkle · 04/01/2010 20:23

spokette who do you like?