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Live chat with Annabel Karmel, Wednesday 19th September, 9-10 pm

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Justiner · 12/09/2001 15:05

Annabel Karmel is the author of nine cookery books focusing on cooking for babies, toddlers and families. Over the last ten years she has emerged as a the leading promoter of healthy feeding habits for babies and children. We've got five copies of her recently-published "New Complete Baby and Toddler Meal Planner" to give to the first five members to join the live discussion. If you can't make the live chat, though, please post questions/ comments in advance below.

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Annabelkarmel · 19/09/2001 20:48

Hi Tracyr,

Milk is still the mostimportant food for your baby at 5 months so don't cut down on the amount you are giving him yet.

I recommend introducing meat,chicken and fish at around 6 months. the iron stores inherited from mum start to run out at the age of 6 months so red meat is important in a babies diet as it provides the best and most easily absorbed source of iron. Very often it is not the tasteof red meat that babies dislike but the texture, so it is a good idea to mix red meat together with root vegetables or pasta. You can introduce pasta at 6 months but most babies find it too lumpy until abut 8 to 9 months.

As for your daughter - it is very common for toddlers to become fussy eaters. Babies grow more rapidly in their first year than at any other time in their life so growth and appetite tend to slow down in the second year. It is very important to limit snacks and drinks between meals. Also be consistent with your rules if she doesn't eat her meal don't make a big fuss just say fine it's obvious that you are not hungry and let her wait for the next mealtime. Some children are never allowed to feel hungry as mum is always at hand to offer some food - but it is a good lesson to learn as even at two they will remember that ifthey refuse to eat now they will be hungry later.

Katehb · 19/09/2001 20:50

thanx for your tips,they sound great...i'll try her out with them this week...thanx again...kate

Annabelkarmel · 19/09/2001 20:51

Hi Kmg,

I'm so glad that your boys enjoyed my recipes and have grown up to be such good eaters. It makes my work so worthwhile to hear that !

Believe it or not I'm not a great fan of fennel myself but I do notice on restaurant menus that it is often put together with fish.

Annabelkarmel · 19/09/2001 20:53

Hi Hawkes,

I have just written a booklet on lunchboxes for Kingsmill who have launched a new bread ‘Kingsmill Wholewhite’ which is a white bread made using 1/3 wholemeal flour. There are some delicious recipes and ideas in the booklet and you can get a copy by writing to KINGMILL LUNCHBOX Biss Lancaster Euro RSCG 69 Monmouth Street London WC2H 9JW.

· In cold weather it can be nice to have something hot in your child’s lunchbox like tomato soup in a flask.

· Raw vegetable sticks and cherry tomatoes with a dip

· Chicken on a stick perhaps satay chicken or see my recipe for chicken and apple balls above

· Most children will leave food that takes a lot of effort to eat as they want a quick re-fuelling stop leaving maximum time for the playground. Its best to give clementines already peeled and wrapped in clingfilm or cut a kiwi in half and let your child scoop out the flesh with a teaspoon.

· Pasta salads are good see the tasty recipe below it is a great favourite with my family.

CHICKEN AND PASTA SALAD

This is the most delicious, easy to prepare chicken salad and it’s great for lunchboxes.

600ml (1 pint) chicken stock
2 chicken breasts
100g (4 oz) pasta bows cooked and cooled
100g (4 oz) canned or frozen sweetcorn
18 small cherry tomatoes cut in half
2 spring onions, finely sliced
½ baby gem lettuce, shredded

Dressing
3 tbsp olive oil
1 tbsp white wine vinegar
½ tsp sugar
salt and freshly ground black pepper
1 tbsp chicken stock from the poaching liquid

Poach the chicken for about 10 minutes in the stock, then leave to cool completely. Remove the chicken with a slotted spoon and cut into bite-sized pieces (this can be prepared the night before). To make the dressing, whisk together all of the ingredients (or use a hand blender). Combine all the ingredients for the salad and toss in the dressing.
MAKES 6 PORTIONS

Hi Lorien,

I’m not entirely convinced that organically grown vegetables and fruit are worth the extra money. Provided you wash or peel fruit and vegetables I don’t believe there is any evidence that they contain sufficiently high levels of pesticides to harm children. Personally I would far rather see children eat more fruits and vegetables organic or not.

Hi Natt,

I’m so glad that you enjoy my recipes !

I have found that young children often enjoy eating the strangest things and are more sophisticated in their tastes than we might expect. My three children love pickled cucumbers so I’m not at all surprised that your 11 month old enjoys eating gherkins.

A typical adult vegetarian diet may not suit a young child as it tends to be quite bulky with lots of pulses, beans etc.. young children need more concentrated calories as otherwise they could easily feel full without being able to consume the nutrients that they need. Foods like cheese or eggs are good for growing children. Also red meat provides the best and most easily absorbed source of iron and 25% of young children are deficient in iron so its good to include meat in your child’s diet provided you are not a strict vegetarian.

Here are some suggestions for sandwich fillings and its fun to cut sandwiches into novelty shapes using cookie cutters:

Grated cheese and carrot with mayonnaise
Chopped hard-boiled egg mashed mixed with salad cress and mayonnaise
Peanut butter and sliced banana
Mashed sardines with tomato ketchup
Grated cheese, Marmite and shredded lettuce
Cream cheese and cucumber
Thinly sliced Swiss cheese, lettuce and tomato
Sliced turkey, lettuce and mayonnaise

Tiu · 19/09/2001 20:57

Hi again Annabel

I don't think you have replied to my first message yet. I was wondering what your views are on bringing up children on a vegetarian diet?

Scummymummy · 19/09/2001 20:58

Is mumsnet the right place to advertise Kingsmill, Annabel? Is papaya puree enough to excuse you?

Annabelkarmel · 19/09/2001 21:00

Hi Valen,

I'm so glad that you are enjoying my Superfoods book - I also feed my husband from this book. Please let me know the recipes that your husband enjoys and I will then let you know which are my husband's favourites from the book !

I would still give my baby red meat, it contains iron which is very inportant for both the physical and mental development of your child. If you ask your butcher to mince good steak or buy organic beef you should be absolutely safe.

Another good source of protein is lentils and there are some delicious lentil recipes in my Superfoods book Tasty Brown Rice with Lentils or Carrot Puree with Lentils and Cheese.

Cheese and Eggs are another good source of protein and you should try my carrot, chese and tomato risotto and the cheesy bread and butter pudding.

ENJOY !

I look forward to hearing from you.

Annabel

Annabelkarmel · 19/09/2001 21:06

Hi Tiu,

A vegetarian diet is fine for children provided it contains cheese and eggs. Some adult vegetarian diets are too bulky, they contain a lot of pulses, beans and rice and young children only have small tummies so they would feel full before they were able to eat enough of the nutrients that they need to grow properly. Also a lotof fibre in the diet can inhibit the absorption of minerals such aszinc, iron and calcium and can cause diarrhoea.

Eggs and cheese are energy dense foods which is what young children need.

Annabelkarmel · 19/09/2001 21:11

Hi Scummymummy,

Since I have written a whole booklet on lunchbox recipes for Kingsmill I think it is relevant to give out information where someone can get free recipes and advice.

Also having three children who only like eating white bread, it's great to find a product that will appeal to them and to their mum !

Do I take it that you are a fan of my papaya puree ?? Did you know that papayas are particularly good for indigestion as they contain enzymes that help you to digest your food.

I love papaya !

Why do have such a funny name ??

Carriel · 19/09/2001 21:12

That's all the questions for tonight folks. Thanks to everyone who joined in and a big thank you to Annabel for all her help and advice.

Annabelkarmel · 19/09/2001 21:12

Hi Denizanasi

I find that root vegetables tend to be popular with babies as they have a naturally sweet taste and puree to a smooth texture. You could try sweet potato, pumpkin, butternut squash. You can also mix root vegetables with fruit which might be a good idea in your case since your daughter already likes fruit. Try combinations like parsnip and apple, carrot mixed with a little orange juice or sweet potato and pear.

Hi Hola,

It is reassuring to know that protein deficiency is almost unheard of in this country and most of us eat more protein than we need. The major protein foods are meat, chicken, fish, eggs, dairy products, beans and lentils. It is good to serve one of these foods for lunch and supper. As a rough guide children should eat meat or chicken 3 to 4 times a week and it is recommended that two portions of fish are eaten each week, one of which should be an oily fish like tuna, salmon, mackerel or sardines.

A balanced diet should contain approximately 20% protein.

Hi Nikki,

An idea that might appeal is to make ice-lollies using fresh fruit. Here’s a recipe for forest fruit lollies. Incidentally these can also be made using frozen mixed berries.

50g (2 oz) raspberries
50g (2 oz) strawberries
50g (2 oz) blueberries
50g (2 oz) blackberries
2 tablespoons icing sugar
1 X 150g (5 oz) pot of raspberry or strawberry yoghurt

Put the berries into a saucepan together with the icing sugar and cook over a gentle heat for a few minutes until the fruit is soft and mushy. Puree the fruit and sieve, then stir in the yoghurt. Pour into ice lolly moulds and freeze.

MAKES 4 LOLLIES

Recipe from Annabel Karmel’s Family Meal Planner published by Ebury Press £14.99

Hi Wheely,

I make a delicious hidden vegetable tomato sauce which is great with pasta. The vegetables are blended into the tomato sauce so that children can’t pick them out!

TOMATO SAUCE WITH HIDDEN VEGETABLES

A delicious tomato sauce flavoured with a hint of creamy mascarpone cheese. A great way to get children to eat vegetables because this sauce makes them invisible and what they can’t see, they can’t pick out. Serve with pasta of your choice.

Suitable for Freezing

1 tbsp vegetable oil
1 onion, chopped
1 clove garlic, crushed
75g carrot, peeled and chopped
½ red pepper, chopped
100g courgette, chopped
20g butter
½ leek, chopped
75g mushrooms, chopped
3 ripe plum tomatoes, chopped
1 tbsp fresh basil leaves
1 tbsp fresh parsley, chopped
salt and pepper
400ml passata
a pinch of sugar
50g mascarpone cheese

Saute the onion and garlic in the oil for 2 minutes until beginning to soften. Add the carrot and saute for 4 minutes. Add the red pepper and courgette and saute for 2 to 3 minutes until beginning to soften. Add the butter, leek and mushrooms and cook for 5 minutes. Add the tomatoes, passata, basil, parsley and salt and pepper and simmer covered for 15 minutes. Blend in a food processor. Press through a sieve and stir in the mascarpone cheese.

MAKES 4 ADULT PORTIONS

Recipe from Annabel Karmel’s Feeding Your Baby and Toddler published by Dorling Kindersley £12.99

Tiu · 19/09/2001 21:13

Thanks Annabel

She gets plenty of eggs and cheese. She also drinks about a pint of milk a day. We have started giving her semi-skimmed milk now she is 2, rather than whole milk. As far as I know she's still getting all the vitamins etc she needs from it, but not so much fat. Is that right?

Annabelkarmel · 19/09/2001 21:18

Hi Bon,

Yes it is possible to overfeed a child with healthy food.

Too much protien will turn to fat and fruit is high in sugar even though it is natural sugar. Dried fruit is particularly fattening.

I think a mum's instinct is always the best and if you feel your child is putting on too much weight go and see your doctor to put your mind at rest .

Enjoy the ice-lollies!

Annabelkarmel · 19/09/2001 21:20

Hi Tiu,

Semi-skimmed milk at two is fine but shouldn't be given before that age.

Annabelkarmel · 19/09/2001 21:22

Hi Hawkes,

I have just written a booklet on lunchboxes for Kingsmill who have launched a new bread ‘Kingsmill Wholewhite’ which is a white bread made using 1/3 wholemeal flour. There are some delicious recipes and ideas in the booklet and you can get a copy by writing to KINGMILL LUNCHBOX Biss Lancaster Euro RSCG 69 Monmouth Street London WC2H 9JW.

· In cold weather it can be nice to have something hot in your child’s lunchbox like tomato soup in a flask.

· Raw vegetable sticks and cherry tomatoes with a dip

· Chicken on a stick perhaps satay chicken or see my recipe for chicken and apple balls above

· Most children will leave food that takes a lot of effort to eat as they want a quick re-fuelling stop leaving maximum time for the playground. Its best to give clementines already peeled and wrapped in clingfilm or cut a kiwi in half and let your child scoop out the flesh with a teaspoon.

· Pasta salads are good see the tasty recipe below it is a great favourite with my family.

CHICKEN AND PASTA SALAD

This is the most delicious, easy to prepare chicken salad and it’s great for lunchboxes.

600ml (1 pint) chicken stock
2 chicken breasts
100g (4 oz) pasta bows cooked and cooled
100g (4 oz) canned or frozen sweetcorn
18 small cherry tomatoes cut in half
2 spring onions, finely sliced
½ baby gem lettuce, shredded

Dressing
3 tbsp olive oil
1 tbsp white wine vinegar
½ tsp sugar
salt and freshly ground black pepper
1 tbsp chicken stock from the poaching liquid

Poach the chicken for about 10 minutes in the stock, then leave to cool completely. Remove the chicken with a slotted spoon and cut into bite-sized pieces (this can be prepared the night before). To make the dressing, whisk together all of the ingredients (or use a hand blender). Combine all the ingredients for the salad and toss in the dressing.
MAKES 6 PORTIONS

Valen · 19/09/2001 21:23

My husband really enjoys all your recipies but he loves all of those which have fruit in them.
Could you tell me what the F in a blue circle means in your book? I think the V in the green circle is for vegeterian isn't it?

Annabelkarmel · 19/09/2001 21:26

Hi Samulekane,

Before giving raw vegetables, I would advise giving your baby steamed vegetables. You can lightly steam sticks of carrot or small florets of broccoli or cauliflower. Once your baby has more teeth you can move on to raw vegetables.

The problem with raw vegetables is the danger that your baby could bite off a piece and then choke on it.

Annabelkarmel · 19/09/2001 22:01

Hi Valen,

The 'F' in the blue circle means that the recipe is suitable for freezing.

The recipes that my husband particularly enjoys from my Superfood book are the Chicken Salad with Swetcorn, Pasta and Cherry Tomatoes, Delicious Chicken Burgers, Strawberry and Rhubarb Crumble, Thai Style Chicken Curry with Pilau Rice, Mild Beef Curry, My Favourite Fish Pie, Mixed Berry and Peach Crumble.

Annabelkarmel · 19/09/2001 22:04

It was great talking to all of you and its nice to know that my recipes are being enjoyed by young and old alike !

Remember : The best form of preventive medicine is a well-stocked larder.

Best Wishes to you all.

Annabel Karmel

Scummymummy · 20/09/2001 08:33

Dear Annabel Kingsmill, why do have funny name?
ScummyMummy xx

Ra · 11/10/2001 12:04

For all you Annabel fans out there....Annabel Karmel will be doing a few talks on children's nutrition and singings of her new book, The 10th Anniversary Edition of The Complete
Baby and Toddler Meal Planner.
on...
Tuesday 9th October 10.30 -12 noon at Ottakar's Bookshop, Milton Keynes in
the Costa Coffee shop.

Thursday 18th October 10.00 11.30 am at Ottakar's in Stevenage.

Friday 16th November 10.30 - 11.30 at Ottakar's Cirencester in the Costa Coffee Shop.

Ra · 11/10/2001 12:15

For all you Annabel fans out there....Annabel Karmel will be doing a few talks on children's nutrition and singings of her new book, The 10th Anniversary Edition of The Complete
Baby and Toddler Meal Planner.
on...
Tuesday 9th October 10.30 -12 noon at Ottakar's Bookshop, Milton Keynes in
the Costa Coffee shop.

Thursday 18th October 10.00 11.30 am at Ottakar's in Stevenage.

Friday 16th November 10.30 - 11.30 at Ottakar's Cirencester in the Costa Coffee Shop.

skippy12 · 22/08/2006 14:02

My daughter developed an intolerance to baby formula after a terrible bout of sickness and diarrhoea, and has been drinking soya milk for the last 6 mos. As she is now one we would like to switch her to cow's milk and would be grateful if you could give us some advice on how to proceed. She is fine with ordinary cheese and fromage....
Many thanks

LIZS · 22/08/2006 14:07

hi Skippy12,
sorry but this thread is very old from 2001 in fact . Try starting a new conversation under the Allergies or Weaning topic, and you should get more response.

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