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Lighter Later campaign to shift the clocks forwards giving us an extra hour of daylight in the evenings - What do you think?

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JustineMumsnet · 29/03/2010 14:46

What do we think of this campaign to move the clocks forward by an hour all year round?

10:10 LAUNCHES "LIGHTER LATER" CAMPAIGN

On the day of the spring clock change 10:10 is launching the Lighter Later campaign to brighten the nation's days, simply by changing the clocks so we are awake when the sun is out.

10:10 is proposing we shift our clocks to give us one extra hour of daylight in the evenings, all year round. In other words, the UK would shift to GMT+1 in the winter and GMT+2 in spring/summer.

If this was implemented the entire country would, overnight, be one step closer to a 10% reduction in its carbon emissions, as well as happier, healthier and better off. This is a great example of how action on climate change need not be negative, long-term or overly complicated, but rather simple, common-sensical and with multiple benefits.

Franny Armstrong, 10:10 founder and director of the climate change blockbuster The Age Of Stupid said

"Hands up who doesn't want our country to be safer, lighter, more prosperous and with less pollution? And who doesn't want to save money on their electricity bills without lifting a finger?"

This simple change would save almost half-a-million tonnes of CO2 each year1. That's equivalent to taking 185,000 cars off the road permanently.

But, as with so many of the simple behavioural changes 10:10 is recommending to people and organisations, this policy initiative has many benefits beyond the environment.

  • Road Safety This policy could save over 100 fatalities on the nation's roads each year.
  • Energy bills Consumers and businesses would use less energy thus saving money!
  • Tourism & jobs It is estimated that, as a result of the measures proposed by the Lighter Later campaign, 60,000-80,000 jobs will be created through increased leisure & tourism, bringing an extra £2.5-3.5 billion into the economy each year.
  • Prevent accidents. More daylight could prevent an estimated 1,000 serious injuries every year.
  • Crime Lighter evening would reduce crime and fear of crime.
  • Health. More daylight means more time for sports and outdoor activities.

These knock-on benefits mean that lighter evenings are now a more attractive prospect than ever. And people have finally started to take notice. From tourism trade bodies to road safety campaigners, and from sporting organisations to serving Government ministers, a new movement for lighter evenings is growing day by day.

10:10 is calling on individuals, businesses and organisations alike to add their voices to the call for lighter evenings all year round by visiting www.lighterlater.org

Article about it here.

OP posts:
Granny23 · 31/03/2010 00:25

Basking in the glow from the comments above, I thank you.

For my next trick - I have a cunning plan to ensure we all get more daylight. Everyone from Up North could move Down South for the winter, then, everyone from Down South could move Up North in the Summer. That should not cause too much disruption, must be easy to organise - birds do it all the time.

My second plan was to travel from Lowestoft to Fermanagh in a day, therby getting an extra half hour of daylight at any time of year. I have, however, realised this will not work because you would lose the half hour when you travelled back.

midnightexpress · 31/03/2010 09:25

Plus you'd probably spend the half hour stuck in a traffic jam on the M6 granny23. Then stuck for another half hour on the way back and you're actually working at a loss (I think).

However, I like your thinking on the moving. I wonder if perhaps all the yaysayers would like to come and spend a winter up here before any decisions are made? We're famed for our hospitality, you know, and we give good Hogmanay.

MadameAdelaide · 31/03/2010 09:52

this has probably been said before, I have not read entire thread but surely this is the reason they cannot do this:

At the moment, presuming an average 9am to 3.30pm for most schools (I know a few are earlier/later) but going on the 9am to 3.30pm all year round children go to school AND come back in the daylight, as even in mid winter it is still just light at 3.30. However, if they bring in proposed change then for weeks on end in the winter ALL children will be going into school in the complete darkness. I'm not happy about the thought of that.

Therefore, Mumsnet why are you doing this? I would value my childrens safety to and from school above saving energy any day.

MadameAdelaide · 31/03/2010 09:56

and by the way I do my best to save energy, all our light bulbs are energy saving, I recycle everything etc, but I cannot agree with this.

skidoodly · 31/03/2010 10:58

I don't think we can ask the Scots to live in darkness in Winter in a questionable effort to save energy while people are quite open about running cars for fun.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/938923-To-want-DH-to-buy-a-car-with-enough-seats?msgid= 19126273

purpledolphin · 31/03/2010 11:15

I'd like to see studies to see when the most RTA s occur. Common sense would say that you are more alert in the morning and therefore better able to deal with the dark than in the evening...... but when these things are researched common sense is not always proved right, lets go for the safest option be as it is now, GMT+1 all year or GMT+1 in winter and GMT+2 in summer

skidoodly · 31/03/2010 11:19

Also, why is this being called "double summertime" instead of Central European Time?

GentleOtter · 31/03/2010 11:24

Granny23 for Prime Minister. Someone with common sense.

It got dark here about 8.30 pm (7.30 in real time and in the height of summer, gets dimmish around 10.45pm.
The depths of winter, it gets dark from 2.30 pm and I am never sure when it gets light in the morning as I'm never properly awake then.

To those posters who had a good bitch about the farmers - go forth and multiply. Water is charged on a meter and the costs will show on your food bill.

Has anyone actually let Scotland know that it is summer time yet? We are snowed in as usual.

Pofacedagain · 31/03/2010 11:27

OK can we have some energy saving suggestions please, perhaps even commitments from those of you who are so outraged by this proposal? A useful diversion of energy?

I do understand why you are cross. Though a lot of the world do go to school in the dark already as mentioned. But every time an energy saving suggestion is made, everyone seems to be up in arms about it.

midnightexpress · 31/03/2010 11:48

Well, aksherly Po, 'tis the Scots who are covering their landscape with wind farms (I can see about a hundred of them from the top of the hill I live on, and are making significant investment in offshore wind power. More info here.

Pofacedagain · 31/03/2010 12:13

'The Scottish government has a target of generating 31% of Scotland's electricity from renewable energy by 2011 and 50% by 2020. The majority of this is likely to come from wind power.'

That is brilliant. I could poke our government in the collective eyes, I really could.

But individually we do need to make serious changes.

doggiesayswoof · 31/03/2010 13:00

Pofaced - a pulley!!! I love them.

Cursed with low ceilings though...

Scotland is doing stuff with wave power too - god sorry that is vague - hold on, I will google

abride · 31/03/2010 13:03

I HATE wind farms. They are ugly and inefficient. Five turbines went up near us and every time I see them they make me hiss. As far as I can work out they provide enough energy to keep a couple of houses going. Roll that out across England and we'd look like a porcupine. And still wouldn't have enough power.

LorraineSattell · 31/03/2010 13:04

we have a six bar pulley.

doggiesayswoof · 31/03/2010 13:09

wave power

Apologies for linking to the Daily Record but since it is normally pro-Labour through and through I thought it was interesting that it's published a semi-positive story about the Scottish Government

Love the cheesy headline

doggiesayswoof · 31/03/2010 13:12

Lorraine

abride it's so subjective. I think they look dramatic and beautiful in their own way. There are loads in the countryside around us. I'd have no problem with them being rolled out across Scotland as part of a package of different measures

doggiesayswoof · 31/03/2010 13:15

midnightexpress I just looked at your link - didn't realise Whitelee was the biggest UK wind farm. It's just down the road from us.

Apparently the visitor centre is cool.

midnightexpress · 31/03/2010 13:27

Yes, I've heard that too - must take a trip. You must be near us doggie (S Lanarks).

I think one of the proposed ones is going to be the biggest in Europe - the Clyde Valley one?

doggiesayswoof · 31/03/2010 16:20

We're in SW Glasgow, and lots of family in S Lanarks so we are on the southern orbital road/M77 a lot.

I'd heard that about the Clyde one (down near Crawford?). I know people in the area are unhappy about it - I don't know when it is going up.

Pofacedagain · 31/03/2010 18:32

I love the look of wind farms. They look a hell of a lot nicer than a nuclear power station, for a start.

plum100 · 31/03/2010 19:38

Sounds like a plan.... could you also campaign to change the summer hols from wet and overcast August, to the seemingly more sunnier, drier May/June time?

Pofacedagain · 31/03/2010 19:40

Brilliant plum!

Pofacedagain · 31/03/2010 19:41

It has rained for 3 consecutive Augusts where I live. Painful.

plum100 · 31/03/2010 19:50

Yes I have been aware of the weather since dd started school - we always have to camp in june and take her out of school to get the nice weather. The last few years the summer hols have been really really naff. Why cant we be off when its nice?

midnightexpress · 31/03/2010 20:03

Move to Scotland.

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