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Are first-time buyers with a mortgage considered cash buyers?

36 replies

KitTea3 · Yesterday 00:13

I apologise in advance as I feel I do know the amswer to this question but need some confirmation 🤦🏻‍♀️

My partner and I are in the process of looking to buy a house. We have a decent deposit but will still need to have mortgage, we are first t time buyers, no chain

Can someone just clarify for me this does not mean we are "cash buyers" (or whatever the phrase is that I've somehow now forgotten) .

To me a cash buyer is somehow who doesn't NOT require a mortgage? I think my bf has been confused with no chain and cash buyers 🤦🏻‍♀️😫sorry for the stupid question 😫

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dunroaminaroind · Yesterday 00:14

You are correct and your boyfriend is wrong. Cash buyers don’t have a mortgage. They have enough cash to cover the whole purchase.

AlcoholicAntibiotic · Yesterday 00:15

No, you aren’t cash buyers. Cash buyers have no mortgage.

KitTea3 · Yesterday 00:16

AlcoholicAntibiotic · Yesterday 00:15

No, you aren’t cash buyers. Cash buyers have no mortgage.

Thank you! As I thought!!

Sorry we are extremely new to the whole house buying thing (as you can probably tell!! 😫)

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KitTea3 · Yesterday 00:17

dunroaminaroind · Yesterday 00:14

You are correct and your boyfriend is wrong. Cash buyers don’t have a mortgage. They have enough cash to cover the whole purchase.

Did think as much! Thank you for confirming!

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Smarvellous · Yesterday 00:17

Not cash buyers but first time buyers - so still a positive as no chain.

KitTea3 · Yesterday 00:21

Smarvellous · Yesterday 00:17

Not cash buyers but first time buyers - so still a positive as no chain.

Can I ask, when we make an offer if it worth trying to negotiate as first time buyers with no chain? Someone mentioned to me it might be a small advantage? In case they want a quicker sale?

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JustCabbaggeLooking · Yesterday 00:24

KitTea3 · Yesterday 00:21

Can I ask, when we make an offer if it worth trying to negotiate as first time buyers with no chain? Someone mentioned to me it might be a small advantage? In case they want a quicker sale?

First time buyers doesn't matter to the vendor. No chain does.

Beatrixpotts · Yesterday 00:25

KitTea3 · Yesterday 00:21

Can I ask, when we make an offer if it worth trying to negotiate as first time buyers with no chain? Someone mentioned to me it might be a small advantage? In case they want a quicker sale?

Cash buyers has always suggested to me that the bank will not loan the money on the property for a mortgage. Does not always mean there is an issue with the house, but likely! Happy to be told I am wrong though!

pizzaHeart · Yesterday 00:27

I know it sounds strange but sometimes people don’t want quick sale e.g if they haven’t found their next house yet or have found but need to wait for it.

JustCabbaggeLooking · Yesterday 00:29

Beatrixpotts · Yesterday 00:25

Cash buyers has always suggested to me that the bank will not loan the money on the property for a mortgage. Does not always mean there is an issue with the house, but likely! Happy to be told I am wrong though!

Cash buyers means they can buy whatever property they want to buy. They are taking the risk.

KitTea3 · Yesterday 00:30

Thank you for the advice so far ☺️

God this all moves so quickly! We saw one we really wanted and before I had chance it had already gone though my sister recommended stil contacting the agent incase it falls though x

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Pistachiocake · Yesterday 00:33

KitTea3 · Yesterday 00:21

Can I ask, when we make an offer if it worth trying to negotiate as first time buyers with no chain? Someone mentioned to me it might be a small advantage? In case they want a quicker sale?

If you are approved, with everything in place yes, because you're pretty much as good as a cash buyer (when you've had lots of views who waste your time because they haven't even looked into a mortgage, you appreciate buyers who are ready to go!)

TheSmallAssassin · Yesterday 00:36

I always thought cash buyers means people who are chain free, essentially. I suppose it depends on whether there are reasons why someone would struggle to get a bank or building society to lend against a property.

JustCabbaggeLooking · Yesterday 00:41

Apart from being a cash buyer, being outwith of a chain means you do have an advantage. But your advantage is dependent on Mortgage approval, so you can't buy a haunted mansion with no toilet or kitchen.
Cash? It's yours. 😁

notnowmaud · Yesterday 00:41

A cash buyer is someone who doesn’t need a mortgage because they already have the cash eg might have won the lottery, received an inheritance, made a mint on the stock exchange, designed a product everyone wanted and made lots on money etc etc.

Tiptopflipflop · Yesterday 00:41

TheSmallAssassin · Yesterday 00:36

I always thought cash buyers means people who are chain free, essentially. I suppose it depends on whether there are reasons why someone would struggle to get a bank or building society to lend against a property.

Edited

It does make a difference. A cash buyer isn't going to drop their offer because the mortgage valuation came up short for one thing. That's particularly important at the moment as increasingly valuations are coming in low.

Negroany · Yesterday 00:44

Beatrixpotts · Yesterday 00:25

Cash buyers has always suggested to me that the bank will not loan the money on the property for a mortgage. Does not always mean there is an issue with the house, but likely! Happy to be told I am wrong though!

Very weird take.

I was a cash buyer for my property simply because I had the funds to buy mortgage free. No idea whether a bank would lend on it, I didn't need to find out.

Negroany · Yesterday 00:46

TheSmallAssassin · Yesterday 00:36

I always thought cash buyers means people who are chain free, essentially. I suppose it depends on whether there are reasons why someone would struggle to get a bank or building society to lend against a property.

Edited

It doesn't mean they are chain free.

They might be selling a house with no mortgage on it and using that money (cash, no mortgage) to buy this house. But they still have a buyer for their house, creating the chain.

Jmaho · Yesterday 00:49

Negroany · Yesterday 00:44

Very weird take.

I was a cash buyer for my property simply because I had the funds to buy mortgage free. No idea whether a bank would lend on it, I didn't need to find out.

I think the confusion is being caused by properties sometimes being advertised as cash buyers only. Usually as it would be hard to get a mortgage on the property. Usual example being short lease remaining

McSpoot · Yesterday 05:42

TheSmallAssassin · Yesterday 00:36

I always thought cash buyers means people who are chain free, essentially. I suppose it depends on whether there are reasons why someone would struggle to get a bank or building society to lend against a property.

Edited

You’d think wrong.

Nourishinghandcream · Yesterday 06:06

notnowmaud · Yesterday 00:41

A cash buyer is someone who doesn’t need a mortgage because they already have the cash eg might have won the lottery, received an inheritance, made a mint on the stock exchange, designed a product everyone wanted and made lots on money etc etc.

Or they might just have already sold their previous home.......

Nourishinghandcream · Yesterday 06:21

When we sold our last house we went to B&F and had our choice of potential buyers, all of which were proceedable (which was a condition of even getting a viewing).
We sold to FTB, not because they offered the most (they didn't, they were the third highest) but because we liked them and their particular situation was best.
You are in quite a strong position.👍

We had overs over & above from genuine cash buyers but our gut feeling was that they may mess us about.
We did however make it very clear from day-one that any attempt to later renegotiate the price would result in the sale being cancelled and the house going back on the market.
We would have done it as well.

lovealieinortwo · Yesterday 06:32

I always thought a cash buyer was someone who didn’t need a mortgage & chain free but some EAs will still call someone a cash buyer if they don’t need a mortgage but need to sell their property/liquidate an asset.

BeenChangedForGood · Yesterday 06:35

@KitTea3 It’s all very exciting when buying your first property - but very overwhelming 😅 and you’re right, everything moves so quickly at the start!
Can I ask what your current living situation is - are you renting? Living with family etc?

We were also chain free buyers when we bought our current house. They had planned to put the property to a closing date as there were so many offers but when they realised that we were chain free buyers who were in no rush to move they took it off the market and accepted our offer as they hadn’t found their new house yet. I don’t know exact figures but from what I could gather from the estate agents etc our offer sat somewhere in the middle of those that had come in - we certainly weren’t in the top few highest ones.

I would certainly mention your chain free position when offering ☺️

BeingATwatItsABingThing · Yesterday 06:38

My PIL were cash buyers for their last and current moves because they have no mortgage and the money from their house sale paid off the new house.