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Devastating realisation (warning: retained organs)

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SadTears · 18/04/2018 15:13

I can't talk to my loving, thoughtful and caring children about this as 2 of them are expecting a baby this summer. I have no friends or other family and am very isolated due to a disability with no support.

I had 4 babies, 3 sons followed by my daughter, with age gaps of 14 months, 15 months and exactly 1 year. It was my 3rd son, 3rd baby, this is about.

I've tried to write this so many times. I'm sorry if it is long or confusing; I don't expect any replies, I think I just need to get it out of my mind (talking real spoken words can make a huge difference, but I genuinely don't have anyone).

Last week there was a huge devastating realisation; it felt like someone squeezed all the air out of my body and all that came out was tears.

I was, doing some very excited grandma-to-be reading and ended up on the WHO gestational growth charts and explanations. I can't describe how I felt when I realised that the hospital had lied to brazenly to me about my baby's gestation which meant he did not have to be recorded as a birth. They put 'spontaneous abortion' and that hurts so deeply.

When i was at my 1st antenatal I was 8 weeks pregnant, but was using contraception so wasn't sure. The midwife measured me at 16 weeks, so sent me straight for a scan. All this is on my co-op card (like a pregnancy record),that I still have.

The scan confirmed I was 16 weeks pregnant but there was also excess amniotic fluid, so I had additional tests that were all OK and my care was referred back to GP until 36 weeks (which was normal then).

My due date was 3rd of September

He was delivered on 6th of August.

The 8 week difference is significant and meant he was denied a funeral which in turn meant his body had all his organs removed. If he could have had a funeral, there is no way they could have done that to him.

I kept seeing my GP for antenatal care. He was awful (to everyone) and his antenatal care included asking how you were. There was no examination, no listening to heartbeat, but no blood pressure checks... This was his normal practice. He didn't fill anything in on my co-op card. Many women going through this made serious complaints at the time, me included, but it was deemed he was doing the bare minimum required so no action was taken.

At 36 weeks, on 5th August, I told the GP I couldn't feel my baby moving and I didn't feel pregnant any more. He belittled me and said I was being silly and neurotic. I asked him for my co-op card and he filled it in in front of me, from weeks 20 to 35, the heartbeat heart, fundus height, blood pressure with a load of crap, the dates didn't even correspond to my checkup dates.

I didn't sleep that night and decided to go to the hospital early the following day.

I had a scan. They dated it at 28 weeks on size, not 36. I said I was 36 weeks but for some reason the earlier scan wasn't in my notes. They said if I was 36 weeks then baby was very small for dates. I tried telling them that at 16 weeks my baby measured perfectly for 16 weeks and she made a note.

I was told my baby would be stillborn. The person scanning said my baby appeared to be fully developed, and his lungs and heart looked full term. This bit was not written in my notes.

Once I was on the ward the treatment was awful, almost like I was contagious. They did the bare minimum and rarely spoke to me and 3 hours after being induced I delivered my baby by myself, in the room alone. I had to ring the buzzer and it took them what felt like a long time to come. During that time I just held my baby. He was perfect. He was very small, but he didn't look premature, just small. I was holding him so close and I remember wiping my tears from his face. He had the same colour hair as my 2nd baby but looked just like my eldest son.

When the midwife came in she seemed angry with me for not telling her my baby was delivered ( still don't understand what I could have done differently)

She literally snatched him from me, put him on the bed and told me I shouldn't be going and touching him. She said it was pointless cutting the cord and she delivered the placenta and left me, taking my baby away from me. I never saw him again, they refused to let me see him.

One midwife was telling a student midwife what was happening, outside my door and I heard everything. She said that my baby was small for dates. At the time I didn't put much significance on that comment as I was so distraught. He weighed 1.189kg - I think is about 2lbs 4oz, which is perfect for 28 week gestation. But, her saying that really was THEM KNOWING AND ACKNOWLEDGING that he was 36 weeks gestation.

Why has it taken me so many years to realise this? Why has it taken so long for me to actually convert his birthweight to lbs and ounces? I only realised when I saw the WHO chart saying 1105g for 28 weeks. I feel so bad that I only just clicked.

I asked about arranging a funeral. They said I was only 28 weeks and had to be 28 weeks and 1 day for a stillbirth so I couldn't have a funeral. Why couldn't they listen to me? They told me they would put his body in the coffin of an adult male with no family. (I still don't know if that is something they really did, or was it said to be some sort of comfort that he wouldn't be alone?) I argued about his dates but they weren't listening. My local vicar later told me he has spoken to a midwife about this. She told him that any baby appearing small for dates was put as a spontaneous abortion so it didn't have to be registered as a birth, for a few reasons... Less paperwork and it looks far better on hospital statistics as it is one less stillbirth on official records.

Life went on, my daughter was born on the 6th August the following year.

One day, when my daughter was 14 years old I got a call from the hospital director asking me to see him and the director of obstetrics and gynaecology, and to take someone with me. During that meeting they told me that during a review, ordered by Government, they discovered that all of my baby's organs, including skin, were taken without my knowledge or permission. His body parts were located in 7 different hospitals and universities.

If they had asked me if they could take his organs for research and/or teaching I would have said yes. Why didn't they just ask me?

I wanted to find out how this had happened and wanted as much of him back as possible thinking at least I could now arrange a funeral. I was told they were not allowed to discuss it with me as it was now a legal case, and to find out I would have to join the class action suite against the health authority.

I decided to join purely so I could bury my baby.

During the fact gathering by the legal team they obviously went through all my hospital and GP records. After delivery there was a section about taking his body and someone had written "perfect specimen, mother unaware".

The case was truly awful but, at the end, I asked when I would get him back only to be told I wouldn't. If I wanted to buy him I would have to take out a civil case. I couldn't face anymore because 3 times in the original case I wanted to back out but told I couldn't otherwise I would have to pay all the legal fees and I couldn't afford it. I felt trapped in a place I couldn't handle.

I'm not even sure why I have told you all of this. Some days I want to die because I still feel that I failed my baby so many times. They say time is a healer, I'm still waiting for the time it starts to feel better.

I don't think anyone can ever 'get over' losing a baby, just learn to love in a different way.

FOR NEWS, MEDIA AND OTHERS: I DO NOT GIVE PERMISSION TO ANYONE TO PUBLISH ANY PART OR ALL OF THIS POST.

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GoldenBlue · 18/04/2018 21:44

I am so sorry for what you have been through. My own son was born sleeping at 23 weeks 6 days 19 years ago. A day before the date he could be registered as a birth. But the hospital still allowed me to make arrangements for him to be buried. But only because my mum asked. Normally babies were put in mass graves, unmarked.

Only a few years ago women were discouraged from seeing their stillborn babies and were expected just to walk away and forget. It isn't healthy, you need the opportunity to mourn.

But with help of charities like sands things have changed now and parents are treated much better. They provide chilled cribs so parents are able to stay with their babies until they can let them go. Charities like cherished gowns provide beautiful burial clothes made from wedding dresses. Now parents are allowed and encouraged to mourn their beloved babies.

You are allowed to grieve for this beloved child. You can talk about him, to us, to family members. It is wrong what happened to his body, but that doesn't take away from your love and memories of cherishing him as he grew.

I 'celebrate' my babies birthday every year. We have some family traditions and ensure he isn't forgotten. Is there some way you can have an opportunity to grieve and allow yourself a focal point for those emotions? It never goes away, and sometimes are worse than others, but we practice finding things that work for us.

This year I am having a tattoo to commemorate my son. Just a little thing, but with me always.

Thinking if you X

SadTears · 08/05/2018 23:37

I'm so sorry I have taken so long to reply to you all, when you were all so caring and supportive. I couldn't bring myself to read any replies for a while as I had got myself into such an emotional mess. I was so grateful for all your responses.

My little boy's name was William, but because my 2 little toddlers couldn't pronounce that he has always been known as Billy Boy.

I find it hard realising that back then 28 weeks and 1 day was the gestation they were considered 'viable' and prior to that it was called a spontaneous abortion, not a stillbirth... But, it makes me feel happier that now, not that many years later, babies even weeks earlier and survive and thrive (and are treated with respect and dignity).

After reading your replies I got out all his birthday cards and Christmas cards, 33 of each. In each one I had written bits about what his siblings had been doing that year. I'm not sure why I have done that, but reading them, I'm pleased I did. I couldn't stop crying until I eventually fell asleep but it felt a relief in a way.

I also found out the plaque, I wrote the words after the court case and a kind friend had the brass plaque engraved. I've put a photo of it here. I'm not sure why, but for some weird reason I want to share it, perhaps so he is seen as real?

All my children know what happened and we have often spoken about it; I don't feel able to talk to them now because two of them are expecting a baby of their own and I don't want my (OTT) worries affecting their pregnancies or me saying something that would cause them unnecessary worry. I'm so excited and happy for them, but every scan or appointment they have I'm hiding the nervous wreck I've become.

Writing my original post, then reading your replies, his cards... it made me realise just how strong our love is for our children, I guess I'm surprised at how much I can love someone who I couldn't get to know.

I'm sorry I haven't been able to reply to each one of you separately, I wish I could find the strength, as your caring, your thoughts, encouragement, all helped me whilst I am struggling so much. Thank you all, I hope you can feel how much you have helped and how much I appreciate it Flowers

Devastating realisation (warning: retained organs)
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FrameyMcFrame · 08/05/2018 23:49

You did nothing wrong.

You shouldn't have been treated like this.
Thanks

springmachine · 09/05/2018 01:43

The prime on your plaque gave me all the feels and my eyes are about to leak.

I'm so sorry for the way you and William were treated.
I hope this message reaches the places it needs to to ensure things like this don't happen.

Thank you for your bravery in talking about it.

William would be my age now and I'm sure he appreciates every card you've ever written for him.

He along with his siblings are very lucky to have a parent like you.

bumblenbean · 09/05/2018 23:25

Such a lovely tribute to beautiful William, who was so precious and loved. What a wonderful mum you are to all four of your children. I’m sure you will be an equally lovely grandma Flowers

SadTears · 10/05/2018 00:16

Someone mentioned contacting SANDS. I meant to say before; after William was delivered and taken away I was put on the post natal ward with all the new babies and happy mums. It felt so cruel.

Because I was so shocked at the treatment afterwards I put an advert in the local paper asking for other bereaved parents to contact me. We got in touch with SANDS and set up the original SANDS group in Huddersfield,at the Infirmary.

The first thing we did was fundraise to furnish the first bereavement room in Yorkshire. I'll try to find the photo of the day it opened, with the head of obstetrics holding my then 2 year old daughter who he delivered exactly 1 year after my little boy.

The SANDS group folded around 1993/4 but I believe a new one is running... I hope there is, but I feel so sad it is needed.

I can hardly wait to meet my 2 grandchildren, and if I have as much fun and as many cuddles and giggles as with my 2 year old granddaughter I won't have time for tears!! She lives abroad but I manage to go over 3 or 4 times a year and my next visit will be meeting her baby brother!!

Again, thank you all so much for showing so much care and understanding, and thank you for being there when things suddenly became too much to bear.

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Bisquick · 10/05/2018 00:29

Dear OP. I too lost a son and gained a daughter in just under a year. My son was stillborn at 37 weeks and humaneness with which we were treated is in large part due to mums like yourself speaking up and advocating for your children after a loss. Because of you, so many other parents in your situation have been treated with a dignity that you weren’t given - that’s the legacy of your perfect little William.
Flowers

memaymamo · 10/05/2018 00:38

Bug hugs to you OP. I have tears reading your story. You and your beautiful baby William were treated horrifically, and of course you have trauma and grief that continues to this day. Most likely the impending grandchildren are bringing up all these thoughts and feelings to the surface.

I can definitely understand why you don't want to talk to your daughters about it at this time but it does sound worth talking to someone if the opportunity comes up.

Doing something special in his memory at this time might help.

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