Unfussy Uterus - interested how many of you feel this could be true for you

[sunshine76]

www.thaindian.com/newsportal/health/non-fussy-uteruses-blamed-for-miscarriages_100352001.html

This was in the New Scientist.

Since I read this last week I can't help thinking this really applies to me and my situation.

With my daughter it took us more than a year of well timed intercourse, temping, charting etc. But once I got pregnant it was successful - she is 3 in Sept.

We said lets try again in Oct 2009, got pregnant first time no-temping, only vaguely 'trying' - that ended in a miscarriage at 10 weeks.

We decided to leave it for a while, forward to Sept 2010, said let's try again, got pregnant first time again, only had sex once in the assumed fertile window, but no temping/charting etc. That ended in miscarriage too at 11 weeks.

After that we decided to try again quickly (no temping/charting just guessing at the fertile window) and got pregnant within two months, lost that one at 5 weeks.

So it seems to me that I am getting pregnant very very quickly but none are viable. I am 34 now and 31 when I had my daughter so not sure if age would be an issue.

Just interested who else has a story a bit like mine and how many women out there this non fussy uterus theory might apply to?

I don't believe there is anything they can do about it at the moment, but for me it provides a little bit of comfort that this could be the reason I am miscarrying, and I need to keeping trying and hoping that we get a sticky one soon.

Thanks for reading and please share your story if you would like.

[mumatron]

laf has your dh had a sperm analysis done?

[LAF77]

No mumatron they haven't looked at him at all yet. They are just looking at me at present.

whitewolf I've got an appt for recurrent miscarriage and if there is anything they say for people like us, I'll let you know here.

[mumatron]

I think my consultant only requested one for my dp as he is an infertility specialist, rather than a rmc one. So it was standard procedure for him. Not all cons will ask for one.

Dp's results certainly tie in with this theory though. A low count and only 1% normal morphology means we should've had problems conceiving. We managed 5 pg in under 2 years. Longest time ttc was 2 months iirc.

[LittleWhiteWolf]

Thanks LAF77, I'm grateful. Any advice is gladly received.
I hope your appt goes as well as possible.

[galwaygal]

I certainly had a time where I was hyper-fertile or had an unfussy uterus.

It was exactly how Dr Rai described it at St Mary's.

He described it to me as being that a normal pregnancy takes a few months to occur, anything less than 3 months is unusual. Repeatedly concieving less than 3 months and especially when it is almost on the first try. He said the window for implantation is longer than normal. It should be just a few hours but in hyperfertility it can be days. He said the reverse is true for some women where the time for possible implantation is reduced causing infertility.

I have had 13 pregnancies.

1st pregnancy - took 4 months to concieve.
2nd pregnancy - took 4 months to concieve.

3rd pregnancy - took 8 months to concieve, but I was older now reaching 40. Miscarried.
4th pregnancy - was concieved without having a period after the previous m/c.

5th and subsequent pregnancies were all 1st trimester miscarriages all concieved within 1 month (except one that took 2 months). I spent the better part of 2 years pregnant and losing the pregnancies.

Something seemed to happen, whether it was age or what I don't know. But for nearly a year now I have not concived..... so my hyper-fertile status has now changed.

I have no idea why it happened or why it has now stopped but I know that something happened for a while. And to have Dr Rai explain it in the way he did certainly helped me cope better emotionally.

[galwaygal]

Forgot to say that on two occasions we only had intercourse once and a week before ovulation..... So theoretically just outside the fertile time. Yet became pregnant.

[igggi]

Have just been reading the link - very interesting (alarming) stuff. Was looking hopefully at the bottom of the article to see any suggestions of treatment! I don't quite understand the comments about trying just in the 48 hours around ovulation - the issue seems to be to do with implanting outside a certain time and I'm not sure how I can influence that?

[igggi]

Have just been reading the link - very interesting (alarming) stuff. Was looking hopefully at the bottom of the article to see any suggestions of treatment! I don't quite understand the comments about trying just in the 48 hours around ovulation - the issue seems to be to do with implanting outside a certain time and I'm not sure how I can influence that?

[LAF77]

Hi iggi I'm no scientist, but working through it in my logic, your womb's hormones/composition changes during the fertility window to allow the implantation of the egg. If the egg has been fertilised outside the window and starts its journey to the womb, it arrives too early or late for the chemical/hormonal changes to happen in sync with the appropriate development. But, hey, I'm no PhD. Everything I've learned in biology said that you shouldn't be pg at all if this happens.

The paper was published last year, so they could still be in experimental treatment phase, but they reference earlier research about aspirin and heparin from Raj Rai and Lesley Regan. I'm going to ask about what is happening with this development at my appt. I'd volunteer to be a candidate for any treatment. I'm 34 so relatively young in the stakes. If I could do anything to spare another person from going through a miscarriage, I'd accept that the pain of my miscarriages would have served a purpose to help others.

Bless you galwaygal I can't imagine suffering so many losses like you have. xx My third pg shouldn't have happened either. We had unprotected sex at the tail end of my period and there wasn't a logical reason for me to be pg. I was quite shocked to have a positive test, but I thought it was a miracle pg :-(

[Twittwooo]

I know it's a while since anyone has posted on this thread, but I thought I'd update on my situation. I'm sure I also fall into this category, and it's very frustrating because it feels like such a waiting game. I have had two miscarriages in four months. Each time I became pregnant at the first attempt, and like most of you I wasn't charting or anything, we just estimated what we thought would be approximate ovulation time. I have just found out I am 4 weeks pregnant again, and this time we had sex both outside and within what I think was the ovulation window. In a way I was hoping I wasn't pregnant so that I didn't fall into this category, but because of this I'm sure I do. I'm interested to hear that some people have taken asprin - was this prescribed? I can't have any tests until after 3 miscarriages, so in a way I'm just waiting for that to happen, as awful as it sounds.

[MrsTangerineMan]

I just came across this thread and it sounds like me too! I wondered if any of he oriinal posters were still around, have you had any successes?

I've been trying for three months and had two chemical pregnancies (this month and last). Starting to worry now !

[Littlestone]

Thanks for posting this. I have had a real light bulb moment. I have had 3 miscarriages, each time I have got pregnant by having sex once that month!! Seems a bit of a coincidence. I am on the waiting list for recurrent miscarriage, but this may be useful.

[FrozenNorthPole]

I was discussing this with DH the other day. We have always conceived very quickly but had three miscarriages almost back to back. The cycle immediately after loss number three, I conceived DD1. DD2 was conceived from intercourse 5 days before ovulation, and this current pregnancy (which started with very low beta HCG levels, and I'm still terrified about losing) arose from intercourse on day 10 of my cycle with ovulation on day 16 or 17. We were avoiding. Interestingly, DH has had a couple of semen analyses and his count has always been very high but the morphology was largely abnormal.

Food for thought, as I wait to see when the current pregnancy will bite the dust

[notforlong]

I have been pregnant 14 times, every time I got pregnant in the first month.

I have three DC's.

My consultant put this theory to me the other way around, saying that my uterus was fussy and would throw out any fetus with the smallest of problem.

I have a few friends with three DC's or more and they all have at least one with a minor disability. But they have never MC'd