No diet drinks on bootcamp - I CANNOT DO IT.

[PassTheTwiglets]

But if the label on the drink is only 1.1g of carbs per 100ml then why can't I have it, why why WHY?!?!?!

Even if there is any truth to the 'your body reacts to artificial sweetener as it does to sugar' thing, then surely a tiny little bit like that won't matter, will it? If I can have sausages with 2g of carbs then why can't I have a diet fizzy drink with fewer carbs?

Has anybody successfully lost weight at bootcamp/bootcamp light whilst still drinking Diet drinks?

In fact, this report from Harvard Medical School would suggest that there's no issue with drinking carbonated water, but there could be an issue (in terms of osteoporosis) with drinking cola.

BIWI, thanks for explaining the 3 reasons against sweeteners. The problem is that whilst I'm craving the fizz, I hate the taste of plain water (and therefore sparkling water too). I'm awkward, I know :)

Zing, that does sound a bit odd - surely you just burp most of the CO2 out... how is it even going to reach your bones?

Abra, I think you're right about it being a small treat.

BIWI

I have not research this but learnt about it ages ago from my chemistry teacher!
I did Chemistry as my special subject at high school and did my final exam when I was 18. it was in Hungary, so different system, but I was told it was like an O level exam in the UK.

I can't link on phone.
CO2 in fizzy drinks is normally derived from phosphorus acid and it creates calcium carbonate after binding the calcium in bones and teeth.

how much and how it is secreted by the body via urine - I'm not entirely sure.
this calcium "leaching" is increased by excessive salt intake.

sorry I can't support what I say with research and studies.
it's just something that stuck with me: "don't drink fizzy stuff it weakens your bones!"
(he did the whole chemical formulas thing, fuck me if I remember it all - I'll link it if I find it)
he also said that the cheapest and easiest way to clean silver is with tooth paste. it does work!

pass some of it is dissolved so you digest it.

it increases the acidity of your blood.
and everything that enters your body effects the cells and cause molecular changes.

I know very little about microbiology and biochemistry. I'm afraid I can't explain it as I don't fully understand the changes on a cellular level.

btw the O level exam comment was not to say how clever I am, but to highlight how clever my teacher was!

but zing is the CO2 in plain fizzy water also derived from phosphoric acid? I didn't think it was - i thought that it was just carbonic acid pumped into the water to make the fizz (as opposed to the additional chemicals such as phosphoric acid in flavoured fizzy drinks)

and i thought that the acidity from the CO2 in fizzy water could be a problem for your teeth if you drank it all day every day, but less of a problem for the rest of your body (again, this is not the case with flavoured fizzy drinks which have phosphoric acid). see here - it looks as though there could be a small risk with the carbonic acid with respect to the pH level of the blood, but as long as it's just carbonated water (not soda water), this is low

It's not the CO2 that's the osteoporosis problem in fizzy drinks, it's the phosphate. Which isn't in fizzy water, like Willie says.

I wouldn't describe aspartame as poison, but AFAIK there is evidence to suggest that your body reacts to a sweet taste by releasing insulin in preparation for a sugar rush. And this is the sort of thing you're trying to avoid if you're low-carbing, am I right?

willie I did a quick search and some of the articles mention that fizzy water is also made with phosphoric acid.

can't link ATM

it's like everything else.
if you enjoy fizzy water have it!

I presume that the dietary intake of calcium from diary will counter effect/compensate for the calcium being taken out so low-carbers are probably going to be ok from that POV.

what do you think?

I think you're right zing that we basically have to choose which risks we're going to take!

After all everyone who has drunk water has died

willie exactly!

I didn't mean to make it sound like I'm a "fizz-virgin"!

I love diet pepsi, but as someone said upthread I don't ever drink just 100ml.
and if I was to go back to consuming that in big quantities I'd worry more about the aspartame!
so I'd rather just leave them all out. (and I don't actually like sparkling water)

good chat!

I have kept drinking it. You would need a crowbar to get it off me. Still losing weight. I do also drink 2 litres + of water as well.