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Low-carb diets

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The new Paleo/Primal thread - please reintroduce yourself, newcomers welcome!

905 replies

misscph1973 · 24/06/2013 13:53

Wow, we got to 1000 messages!

Welcome back from the previous thread and welcome to all new!

I have been Paleo since September last year, I started as an ex-vegetarian/vegan, I wanted to give up gluten and I had been doing 5:2/IF, which lead me to Paleo/primal. I am 40, I have 2 kids age 8 and 6. I have no major health issues, but I would like it to stay that way. I have bad skin, which has improved since starting Paleo and my dandruff has disappeared. I have gained some weight since starting Paleo, but I was not overweight before, although I would like to get back on my pre Paleo weight - I just love Paleo mayonnaise too much ;) I still practice IF and I lift weights 2-3 times per week. My family is also Paleo.

I have just come back from a camping weekend where I was not strict Paleo as I was camping with other families and I just didn't want to spend my entire weekend telling my kids "no, you cant have it". I do think that Paleo camping is entirely possible, think tinned fish, nuts, sausages, eggs etc.

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andagiraffeinapineappletree · 31/12/2013 00:13

It is funny they are still giving that advice, a friend of dps had a colonoscpy (sp) and basically it was found her problems were caused when she started to take a bran supplement to be more healthy. She has been advised by doctors to cut back on wheat ... doesn't all add up does it! Dietry advice really seems a minefield though. Ther least controversial thing would be to advise people to eat unprocessed food and to avoid sugar as much as possible, that would work with most diets and budgets.

andagiraffeinapineappletree · 31/12/2013 00:17

must be great that your husband is on board with your woe Raw, and even better when he is a gp too!

RawCoconutMacaroon · 31/12/2013 08:48

Giraffe - he is mostly on board! he eats the food, knows it works for weight loss and health (and he has no significant food sensitivities apart from lactose intolerance), knows he feels much better eating that way as so other people would probably too. And he reads a lot about it. BUT it still grates on him that it's going against the standard advice for a lot of conditions...

Actually he says the same as you, pretty much.

That most people either can't (due to cost) or won't radically change their diet. They would rather take medication- and that for most people, cutting carb consumption to pre ww2 levels (we eat more animal fat and a lot less grains then), would be enough to avoid many health problems, for most people.

If you take breakfast as an example, even when I was a young child, (I'm 45), breakfast cereal was rarely bought in our house. We had a cooked breakfast most days. Maybe a slice of toast with 2 or 3 poached or fried eggs, or a couple of rashers of bacon.

Even with the toast, that's a low carb breakfast relative to today's idea of a "healthy" breakfast. A bowl of cereal (mostly these are about 80% carb!). Served with low fat pasteurized milk (affects blood sugar more than raw milk), a glass of fruit juice and maybe a bit of fruit cut over the cereal too... All carbs, no fat, virtually no protein.

Lunch is probably a lot more processed carb and grain heavy than a few decades ago too.

In my (not very scientific) estimation, I think my parents generation as children/young adults were probably eating about 150g carb a day from a home cooked diet that included bread and home cooked cakes etc (both grandmothers baked every week). They were also active in their jobs, and the home cooked provided a lot of natural animal fats, nothing was "low fat".

These days, following healthy eating guidelines it would be easy to eat 300g or more of carbohydrate a day and most peoples metabolism just can't handle that, even if they are very active.

But it's low fat so that's healthy!!! Half the fat, so go ahead, eat twice the amount!

Lol, but I'm preaching to the converted here Grin.

andagiraffeinapineappletree · 31/12/2013 19:00

My dp is 45 raw, I am 10 years younger so brought up in the 80s, my mum used to give me sugar on top of sweet cereal like rice crispies, cornflakes and frosties. I also remember eating sugar sandwiches whilst watching top cat! It wasn't all bad though I remember lunchtime was usually eggs and dinner often roast chicken or lamb and veg. I didn't eat pasta until secondary school and didn't really have cheese until I was at uni!

RawCoconutMacaroon · 31/12/2013 19:44

Our rural area of Scotland was well behind the times - pasta was still exotic in the 80's, and the nearest fast food place was about 70 miles away! Lots of meat, fish and eggs from local suppliers though (often caught or shot or reared by family or friends). Shop supplies were basic, nothing like now! Which was a good thing I suppose though I didn't think so at the time Grin.

I do remember carnation condensed milk as a desert (spooned out of the can!), or on a sandwich!!!!

RawCoconutMacaroon · 31/12/2013 19:46

And a lot of our milk was raw - straight out of the bulk tank at my grandparents farm.

RawCoconutMacaroon · 02/01/2014 16:31

Lol Mary you made me click on a Daily Fail link! Fairly good article though.

However - watch the beef jerky! I haven't seen ANY on sale in shops here (I'm in Scotland) that isn't full of both gluten and sugar. Marks and Spenser's one is 30% carb!!! It is also very expensive.

Actually I bought an Excalibur dehydrator for those reasons, and make my own.

Karbea · 02/01/2014 16:32

Hello,

Can I join? I think I joined a while back but failed to get back on the paleo wagon, but I'm totally motivated again now. I was paleo for about 4 months last year, interestingly a Dr friend of ours advised it and said most drs nutritional training is based on research from the 60s and is massively flawed.

Anyway it's day 2 for me, I did have a small piece of chocolate but I didn't have any healthy snack options, so I'm forgiving myself ;)

Would really appreciate some advice regarding what meals people make.

Today and yesterday I had hemp, raspberry, blueberry protein juice for breakfast, lunch I had two egg omelette with various veggies.
Yesterday I had almonds and chocolate for snacks, today I've had almonds and an apple.

Dinner last night was a piece of chicken (don't ask...) tonight I'm cooking chicken green Thai curry with cauliflower rice.

RawCoconutMacaroon · 02/01/2014 18:01

Hello again Karbea, nothing wrong with chocolate Wink. I eat some every day! Make sure it's minimum 70% (80%,or more is even better). The higher the cocoa content the lower the carbs, and also, it's kind of hard to eat an entire bar of 85%!

Once again I'll recommend a couple of websites/blogs for recipes (I should be on commission), they are free, there are books to buy if you want to but all the info is on the sites.

Marks Daily Apple, Robbwolf.com are both great, but if you google paleo or primal recipes you will find lots of blogs with recipe and meal ideas.

My best tip for breakfasts is to cook more for dinner! Very often our breakfasts are cold cuts of whatever meat we had the night before, either with berries or salad leaves, so no cooking required.

For dinners - often roast meat with roast or mashed veg, or curry with cauliflower or courgette noodles (usually Thai style as we use lots of coconut milk), or homemade burgers or meatloaf with veggies and salad. Normal stuff really, without the grains, legumes and most of the dairy!

andagiraffeinapineappletree · 02/01/2014 18:52

Hi karbea Smile My resolutions [whispers starting from monday] are going to be more veg as a priority for us all, cutting gluten and sugar for me except for maybe one allowed slip each week - will see on that bit.

I think being organised and planning ahead for meals is a really good idea and something I need to get into. Casserole / slow cooker meals work well and could be served with brocoli or cabbage, fish stew is a new one for us, maybe try a different roast dinner - we have only recently started cooking legs of lamb, salads are good for packed lunch in a tupperware, soup, I plan to try venison sausages this year!

Karbea · 02/01/2014 20:45

Perfect thanks, I've also ordered the book The Daily Mail reviewed, looks pretty good. I do know what to do, as, as I said I did do it for 4 months, but sometimes I lack inspiration and it's easy to just be lazy :/
I need to find the curry sauce I used to use, was good as an easy cupboard staple.
Curry was good, some left for lunch tomorrow.

andagiraffeinapineappletree · 03/01/2014 01:20

totally know what you mean karbea, it doesnt help that I'm not a great cook either, that's why i am not going to aim for total family paleofication and I will keep dairy to start with. Scrambled eggs is the best for me, I do it in my non stick ikea frying pan so not even a pita to clean the pan Grin

andagiraffeinapineappletree · 03/01/2014 01:33

Karbea which recipe book did you order? Just skimmed the article, I find the paleo chic title a bit annoying, is that just me?

andagiraffeinapineappletree · 03/01/2014 01:40

Oh sorry I had misread book reviewed as recipe book before so ignore that! I clearly need to get some sleep now ...

FourArms · 03/01/2014 21:24

Lots of free Paleo Kindle downloads on Amazon

Karbea · 04/01/2014 16:50

Tonight we are having chicken curry, this means I'll be having cauliflower rice for the third night in a row :/

giraffeseatpineapples · 05/01/2014 01:01

Hmmm cauliflower rice could get tired quickly. Hopefully it was at least a yum curry. Could you do some kind of paleo version of pakora or bhaji as a side instead? Not v exciting but Frozen spinach mircowaved with kitchen towel on top for about 3 mins is quite a good quick side for curry. Quite like it with a bit of vinegar on top! Well done for staying with it though :)

Really must make sure I have my fridge a bit better stocked for monday its a joke really main events are some thorntons snowmen from the kids stockings, some green and blacks sets that seems to have been a running theme for my presents and a couple of carrots!

RawCoconutMacaroon · 05/01/2014 08:41

The worst thing about cauliflower rice is the mess I always seem to make while prepping it! Or maybe that's just me, shards of cauli all over the kitchen.

As well as cauli, I'll use steamed shredded cabbage or "greens", or strips of courgette, but quite often nothing! Just the curry (but with lots more veg in it).

Karbea · 05/01/2014 09:09

We are at my inlaws for lunch today, so thatll be interesting, hopefully she's doing a roast.

giraffeseatpineapples · 06/01/2014 10:38

How did it go karbea Grin I find my friends and family can either be a real pain/ judgmental about low carb or the other way and too interested/supportive!

Soo today i have had tea and coffeee with milk, 4 eggs scrambled in butter with some gated cheese an apple and a mini green and blacks dar choc (xmas gift).,

Not really paleo yet! Not sure where I fit in best with these diet threads, not really paleo or low carb at mo but nice to have some support. Might try low carb bootcamp next week am dithering.

mary21 · 07/01/2014 17:20

Day2 of paleo ish today. omlette for breakfast, turkey steak fried in coconut oil for lunch with salad including advocados and pork meatball and a very veggie sauce just gone in oven for tea. I used some ground almond as filler. Lots of recipes seem to call for coconut flour or almond flour. where do I get it.
I have a platlet disorder which the docs dont know cause of and what I think is hydranitis suppurativa which is an auto immune problem. not getting far with GP . Reports say paleo can help alot so keen to try. And need to loose lbs

RawCoconutMacaroon · 07/01/2014 18:26

I get my coconut oil, almond flours from realfoodsource - they do a micro fine almond flour and well as normal almond flour, it's better for sauces and for baking but you have to use recipes for extra fine almond flour. I wouldn't buy their coconut milk powder, it's awful, but everything else I've tried is good, including the coconut chocolate.

There are plenty of other online specialist sellers, a good thing to as I live in the back of beyond where shopping is a bit limited. Online is cheaper too, for the organic/cold pressed stuff.

RawCoconutMacaroon · 07/01/2014 18:26

And also get coconut flour from the same place.

Karbea · 07/01/2014 20:26

Still doing ok, although didn't eat much today. Have had a packet of crisps and a chocolate coin :/ rest all Paleo.